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Sparky 05-20-2014 09:21 PM

Anderson was getting a lot of boards. Whatever happened to the oden experiment? I only tuned in recently

Wpnfire 05-20-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1451859)
Anderson was getting a lot of boards. Whatever happened to the oden experiment? I only tuned in recently

Oden is not even active and I agree I thought he was brought on specifically for bigger teams, but 1. Andersen has actually gotten better this year, and 2. Oden had a nightmare game last time he played against Roy Hibbert in the regular season. I think Hibbert scored 10 points with Oden on him during the regular season.

Oden had a stomach virus for the last series, but as far as I know he is healthy now...I think Spoelstra just wants him to be available in case Andersen goes down I assume.

butthead aka 216 05-20-2014 09:31 PM

anderson is hugely underrated. him and norris cole had great games and usually seem to have impact on games

its amazing to me how miami has different guys play every series and they are always ready. credit to them for bein pros and coach spo for having them ready. rashard lewis, battier, cole, etc


basically oden cant play defense the way he needs to. he was getting abused when he was actually playing. hes not quick on pick and rolls and cant really guard 1 on 1 as well as im sure they hoped. my opinion is that birdman is great, but old, and oden is a future plan for them in some regard. keep in mind hes coming abck after 4 years away so it will take time for him, but maybe they can sign him cheap for the future and he can develop into a more athletic version of anderson

Wpnfire 05-20-2014 09:40 PM

Isn't Oden the youngest guy on the team actually? Him and cole are no older than 26. Oden will for sure get better.

butthead aka 216 05-20-2014 09:46 PM

yep hes 26 which is... ridiculous lol. cause it seems like he should be 30. ive always felt bad for the dude cause hes worked incredibly hard to push thru freak injuries. luckily big men can adjust easier with age than guards, so i think if hes picking up pointers along the way and adjusting his game he can be a serviceable big man in the nba. block shots, set screens, grab boards, etc. just needs to improve his pick and roll defense a little bit. its all gonna depend on his knees :(

Dr_Rez 05-21-2014 05:27 AM

Those flopper chants while lebron shot free throws were pretty funny.

butthead aka 216 05-21-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1451988)
Those flopper chants while lebron shot free throws were pretty funny.

Very funny lol and it got in his head. He bricked both shots lol



Flopping is annoying and I'm glad when refs dont gice calls. In lebrons case he actually got fouled but there was a play where chalmers floppes out of bounds and the refs didn't but it which was great. Chalmers get hate but I think he's a near perfect fit for Miami btw

debaserr 05-21-2014 02:52 PM

I don't think people should be labeled as floppers unless it's the reason we know of them...

LeBron deserves some slack.

Wpnfire 05-21-2014 05:40 PM

Stephenson just got fined $5,000 for flopping in the game yesterday.

Soulflower 05-22-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1451645)
They can beat them. They can't win the series however.

We will see lol

The Heat barely beat Indiana last game.

Indiana playing around they should have closed out last game.

God have mercy on them if they play the Spurs.

The Heat will get slaughter. :D

Soulflower 05-22-2014 03:04 PM

If Lebron don't want people chanting "Flopper" than he needs to stop flopping lol

butthead aka 216 05-22-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1452166)
I don't think people should be labeled as floppers unless it's the reason we know of them...

LeBron deserves some slack.

I agree. Everyone flops or sells calls, some more egregiously than others. .. lookin at u chris paul and james harden... lbj takes more contact than anyone in the league tho

Dr_Rez 05-22-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1452574)
We will see lol

The Heat barely beat Indiana last game.

Indiana playing around they should have closed out last game.

God have mercy on them if they play the Spurs.

The Heat will get slaughter. :D

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1452575)
If Lebron don't want people chanting "Flopper" than he needs to stop flopping lol

Nothing you have said has made any sense.

Soulflower 05-23-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1452732)
Nothing you have said has made any sense.

Why don't you explain why?

Indiana was leading most of the game last game they played. The Heat finally caught up towards the end. Indiana should have won that game.

Lebron is King of flopping. He flops because he thinks he can get away with it and he usually does.

The Spurs are looking mighty good. The Heat better watch it because when the Spurs play them THIS time it is not going to be pretty.

butthead aka 216 05-23-2014 10:51 AM

Dude games are close in the playoffs. Miami is a better team than indy and made the crucial plsys to win


Spurs vs heat will be great again if it gets to that. Spurs have been rolling but I'm not takin their series vs thunder too serious since ibaka is out. Thunder only have two starters who can score and one bench guy

Soulflower 05-23-2014 11:07 AM

Indiana has beaten the Heat multiple times in the past so it is very possible Indiana can win the series


If the Heat was this great team ya'll make them out to be, they would be blowing them out by 20 points.

Wpnfire 05-23-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1452972)
If the Heat was this great team ya'll make them out to be, they would be blowing them out by 20 points.

Blowing a team out by 20 points actually says more about the other team, it means that the team that got blown out was having a miserable game. Most basketball games are NOT decided by that many points, especially in the playoffs.

You really don't know WTF you are talking about.


EDIT: I mean just look at the Finals last year. Miami got destroyed by like 32 or something ridiculous in one game, but they turned things COMPLETELY around the next game.


All this being said, if Indiana is going to beat the heat this year, I have a feeling this will be the year they do it.

Soulflower 05-23-2014 12:11 PM

No I know exactly what I am talking about. I am entitled to my opinion.

I am tired of people making it seem like Miami is unstoppable or unbeatable when they barely beat teams or beat teams by luck. I hope the Spurs play them just so they can lose


If Indiana has shown that they can beat Miami why isn't the same possibility of them winning the series given to them like it is for Miami?

There are teams that have swept teams in the play offs. lol If Miami was this unstoppable team why didn't they win the first game against Indiana?

Miami is so overrated.

butthead aka 216 05-24-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1453012)
No I know exactly what I am talking about. I am entitled to my opinion.

I am tired of people making it seem like Miami is unstoppable or unbeatable when they barely beat teams or beat teams by luck. I hope the Spurs play them just so they can lose


If Indiana has shown that they can beat Miami why isn't the same possibility of them winning the series given to them like it is for Miami?

There are teams that have swept teams in the play offs. lol If Miami was this unstoppable team why didn't they win the first game against Indiana?

Miami is so overrated.


realtalk, the crux of like all ur anti-heat comments is basicalyl that they didnt win by enough points.... can you see how crazy that makes u sound?? a team that has been to 3 straight NBA finals, you are discredditting cause they dont win by enough... cmon bro

Wpnfire 05-24-2014 05:50 PM

Just found out Greg Oden is playing today.

ALSO, on Thursday they diagnosed Paul George with a concussion, but he'll be playing today. I'm sure it will be limited minutes so it will be interesting what will happen.

butthead aka 216 05-24-2014 06:05 PM

i saw that too. if oden can give them like 8-10 minutes that would be huge. heat are gonna run birdman into the ground here down the final stretch if they cant get some big minutes from oden/haslem combo. or they can try to go small with bron at power forward and bosh at center but i feel like indy will beat them up in the paint if they go with that for too long

bosh being candid and honest - good short read

i feel like im in the minority in thinkin that bosh playin a more finess/3pt game is good for miami. i just think he should dial it back and only take wide open corner threes and the occasionally top of the key pick-n-pop 3. still would like to see him try to bang down low a little more but he seems pretty reserved to shootin jumpers and corner 3s now.

butthead aka 216 05-24-2014 09:46 PM

as usual, miami loafed and sleepwalked thru the first part of the game. and as usual they turned it on at the end of quarters and indy shat the bed.

it was about tied with around a minute left in the 3rd and bron hit a 3, then wade hit a 3 at the end of the quarter. then of course allen got scorching hott and it was over.


-bosh was a no show again
-hoped to see oden
-cole and birdman continue being huge difference makers
-spolstra adjusted way better than vogel
-david west should never have been on ray allen lol
-where was scola after the first quarter?
-wade has the heart of a champion

Sparky 05-24-2014 11:45 PM

spolstra is a great coach

Moss 05-25-2014 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=Sparky;1453627]spolstra is a great coach[QUOTE]

I would like to see him coach the Nuggets before I state that

Wpnfire 05-25-2014 08:12 PM

So Ibaka is amazing. I just want to say that.

butthead aka 216 05-26-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1453835)
So Ibaka is amazing. I just want to say that.

he really makes a world of difference


spurs didnt shoot the ball well tonight. i dont expect that next game but ibaka is a tough cover for the spurs. hes gotten reeeeally good in the mid range. such an underrated player imo

Sparky 05-30-2014 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=Moss;1453834][QUOTE=Sparky;1453627]spolstra is a great coach
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I would like to see him coach the Nuggets before I state that
Haha very true. I must say i do like his experimental acquisitions and never really saw a small ball dynasty before I don't think.

Gotta go with heat tonight

Paul Smeenus 05-31-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1450788)
It'll either be Miami or San Antonio, and the seemingly endless stream of NBA dominance of the same six teams will be guaranteed to continue.


:(

Wpnfire 05-31-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1455814)
:(

I agree. This is a bit ridiculous, but if the finals are going to be anything like they were last year, I'm looking forward to every game.

That being said, Paul if LeBron James leaves the heat-which given wade's dominating resurgence in the post season playing every game and shooting an incredible 54% from the field this year, I don't think is likey-he could go somewhere else and do better.


Also worth noting, the draft this year. I'm really thinking that this next season is going to be crazy with all the talent.

Also also, sorry about Seattle not getting a team again. I don't know if you ever cared about that, but I am a huge proponent of NOT having two teams in the same city.

Paul Smeenus 05-31-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1455816)
Also also, sorry about Seattle not getting a team again. I don't know if you ever cared about that, but I am a huge proponent of NOT having two teams in the same city.


The only reason I sorta care is because a. The Sonics are my Trailblazers big rivals, b. I'd get to go see my Blazers once in a great while, the only time I *ever* went to a Sonics game was to root for Portland, and the BIG reason c. The NHL *wants* to come here. That's my sport, If they were building an arena the NHL would just about certainly expand. I really don't like the NBA.

Wpnfire 05-31-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1455818)
The only reason I sorta care is because a. The Sonics are my Trailblazers big rivals, b. I'd get to go see my Blazers once in a great while, the only time I *ever* went to a Sonics game was to root for Portland, and the BIG reason c. The NHL *wants* to come here. That's my sport, If they were building an arena the NHL would just about certainly expand. I really don't like the NBA.

I would like to see Seattle get an NBA team, and then Kansas City. KC used to have a team as well before they moved, and with KU, K-State, and Wichita State doing well recently, plus Missouri, not to mention the original rules of basketball are being enshrined in Lawrence, I don't see why we can't get another crack at getting a team again.

With basketball being such a global sport, I think it would be beneficial for the league to expand to 32 teams if we could get Seattle and KC. There's certainly plenty of players to go around.

Paul Smeenus 05-31-2014 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1455820)
With basketball being such a global sport, I think it would be beneficial for the league to expand to 32 teams if we could get Seattle and KC. There's certainly plenty of players to go around.

I won't speak for KC (ironically the Kings were the team we tried to steal last year) but I think Ballmer buying the Clippers is a very very bad sign for Seattle. He's a smart dude (obviously) and his paying 2B for the Clips says he doesn't believe a Seattle team is likely to happen ANYTIME soon. Seattle will be held up by Silver, as it was with Stern, as an example that THIS is what can happen if you don't toe the line with the NBA.

To be honest, if Hansen really wanted an NBA team he should court the NHL, get an arena built, and then Silver will figure out that he's losing money by not being in the #12 TV market.

Soulflower 06-02-2014 02:21 PM

http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...-the-spurs.jpg


YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Y, Love u guys

Soulflower 06-02-2014 02:25 PM

Its by the grace of God Miami won last year with that miracle shot. Only once in a lifetime shot....... they are not winning this year rightfully so because I am tired of the NBA hyping their overrated behinds up

FRED HALE SR. 06-02-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1456318)
Its by the grace of God Miami won last year with that miracle shot. Only once in a lifetime shot....... they are not winning this year rightfully so because I am tired of the NBA hyping their overrated behinds up

Go Heat! Heh

Wpnfire 06-02-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1456325)
Go Heat! Heh

:rofl:

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1456318)
Its by the grace of God Miami won last year with that miracle shot. Only once in a lifetime shot....... they are not winning this year rightfully so because I am tired of the NBA hyping their overrated behinds up

Realtalk if it were up to me you would have been banned from posting here as soon as the Heat went up by 40 ****ing points against the Pacers in the last game. A series you said they would (hilariously): 'definitely beat the Heat' in.


Indiana is also a disaster, just simply a disaster. In game 4 I believe, the Heat won without Andersen or Oden and simply had Rashard Lewis on Hibbert, and Indiana suddenly imploded offensively with George and West barely touching the ball with the Pacers trying to exploit that matchup with Hibbert-which of course is ALWAYS a disaster going to Hibbert as we saw the previous two playoff series.

Every trip down for the Pacers it was stop, stand around for a while, and then either:
  • throw the ball into Hibbert in the post, and Hibbert bungles the play as he usually does
  • the entry pass goes out of bounds because of utter incompetence
  • or the Heat deflect the entry pass and then the Pacers have 5 seconds left to shoot the ball.


It took LeBron James sitting on the bench with 5 fouls for the Pacers to actually win a second game. Paul George's 37 point game comes with an asterisk in that the game's best perimeter defender was not guarding him.

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1456318)
Only once in a lifetime shot.......

ROFL at this statement. You mean a game-tying shot??? There's been hundreds of those, half of them were made by Jordan and like a dozen have been made by LeBron. In that instance last year with Ray Allen, that's also not his first time Allen has won/tied/saved a game with a three. Where have you been?

Soulflower 06-03-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1456325)
Go Heat! Heh

lol Your invited to my Spurs after party when they spank the Heat, muah :p:

FRED HALE SR. 06-03-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1456533)
lol Your invited to my Spurs after party when they spank the Heat, muah :p:

I actually expect it to go 7. And I predict that San Antonio wins the first game. Lets party girl. :thumb:

Soulflower 06-03-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1456462)
:rofl:



Realtalk if it were up to me you would have been banned from posting here as soon as the Heat went up by 40 ****ing points against the Pacers in the last game.

LOL!!!






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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1456462)
A series you said they would (hilariously): 'definitely beat the Heat' in.


I never said that Indiana were going to win.

I said that they could beat the Heat in a game and THEY can.

I don't think Indiana is great either.... but neither is Miami


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Originally Posted by Wpnfire;1456462
Indiana is also a disaster, just simply a disaster. In game 4 I believe, the Heat won without Andersen or Oden and simply had Rashard Lewis on Hibbert, and Indiana suddenly imploded offensively with George and West barely touching the ball with the Pacers trying to exploit that matchup with Hibbert-which of course is ALWAYS a disaster going to Hibbert as we saw the previous two playoff series.

Every trip down for the Pacers it was stop, stand around for a while, and then either:[LIST
[*]throw the ball into Hibbert in the post, and Hibbert bungles the play as he usually does[*]the entry pass goes out of bounds because of utter incompetence[*]or the Heat deflect the entry pass and then the Pacers have 5 seconds left to shoot the ball.[/LIST]

I didn't watch that series intricately but this is my opinion on the overall Eastern Conference..... they suck.

All the teams in the East suck. Miami's competition suck and they don't play good teams in the East. For the next 3-4 years Miami will go to the finals because of that reason. The West Conference have more competitive teams and harder teams to beat. If Ray Allen did not hit that miracle shot that was heard around the world last year the Spurs would have won and rightfully so. The Spurs are a much better team and Miama KNOWS. They know they lucked up and won that Championship last year. How you gonna lose a game 5 points up in .5 seconds???? The NBA rigged that. I truly believe that but the Spurs will win this year NO DOUBT!!! ;)


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Originally Posted by Wpnfire;1456462
It took LeBron James sitting on the bench with 5 fouls for the Pacers to actually win a second game. Paul George's 37 point game comes with an asterisk in that the game's best perimeter defender was not guarding him.


ROFL at this statement. You mean a game-tying shot??? There's been hundreds of those, half of them were made by Jordan and like a dozen have been made by LeBron. In that instance last year with Ray Allen, that's also not [I
his[/I] first time Allen has won/tied/saved a game with a three. Where have you been?

You're right "lucky shots" happen all the time

However,


Please do not compare Lebron James to Michael Legendary Jordan.:nono:


MJ never went to a game 7 in the finals and he always won in game 4's, 5's or 6's in the Finals. Jordan has a crap load of shooting titles (6 or 7 I believe) and (Lebron has 0) and Chicago always scored over 100 points a game, Miami only scores around the 90 range. Miami is not a shooting team and they don't win by 20 points every game like 90's Chicago. Lebron doesn't score 40 points every game like Jordan.

On the other hand, the Spurs ARE a shooting team and they score over 100 points 95% of their games. They have a bench that is DEEP. Miami relies heavily on James, Wade and Bosh to score for most of their points.

The Spurs had to play against a possesed electric Wesbrooke and a future Hall of Famer Durant to get to the Fianls. :drummer: Miami is NO where on that level lol

And you know what else?

Miami did not have to play a really hard team to get to the Finals. ;)

90's Chicago did not win multiple Championships with "lucky shots" Miami is not Chicago and Lebron is DEFINITLY not Jordan.

Period :thumb:

Dr_Rez 06-03-2014 12:45 PM

Realtalk you seriously should watch more basketball before you actually comment on it. Your opinion means nothing if based off nothing.


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