Metta is not even an NBA Deacon.

^ The MWP elbow incident against Harden was repugnant, his reaction after he was called out was even worse, if he would have just owned it instead of trying to rationalize it I'd feel a little differently.

Yeah, acting like it was an accident or something. I hate the guy. Of course I hate the Lakers.

Well yeah, that's how he handled it right then and there, but I'm really talking about the days that followed. Those slow-mo shots really defied any possible "accident" defense, so he had two options at that point. He could've owned it, openly and humbly admitted that he did a terrible thing, but instead he tried to spin it about being carried away by the moment, even saying (paraphrased) "Gee, those tapes make it look really bad, but..."

I went from disapproving to disgusted at that point.

There is never any real retaliation in the NBA but he would have deserved it. Of course people are too afraid of the psycho. Even Indians are afraid of bears and crazy people. Where is Charles Oakley when you need him?

That was the infamous drink throwing incident right? I think he ended up going after the wrong guy or something.

A fan? Yeah I'd say so

Well yeah, good point.

moss - oak was the man!!



i actually dont got a lot of beef with ron-ron goin into the stands. dude threw beer in his face. on top of nightly hearin opposin teams fans call you names, its enough to send a man over the edge. sad he hit the wrong guy tho.

actually had the guy who threw the beer on espn awhile back and him and artest are freindly now. he was/is actually a huge alcoholic.

BYNUM TRADED!


-cavs trade bynum to bulls for deng!!


cavs gets: deng (expiring contract)
bulls get: bynum, kings future 1st rounder, blazers 2 2nd rounders in '15, and can basically swap 1st rounder with cavs if cavs dont make playoffs


interesting...... thoughts?

Wow, tough to give up Deng for Bynum but throw in those picks and its a decent deal. Think I would have stuck with Deng.

Always loved Deng's game. Him being an expiring contract eases the pain, but Bynum is the type of player that could shake the team up in a very negative way, whereas Deng is the complete opposite. I wouldn't have done the trade.

if im the cavs i do the trade, if im the bulls im not sure.


bulls have already waived bynum, he will never play for them. so they gave away deng (who they couldnt resign) for basically a bunch of mediocre-bad picks. i guess the kings pick is protected too so pretty much all these picks are 2nd round or late 1st


cavs get a great small forward which they desperately needed and now look like a verrrry solid team on paper. and gettin rid of bynum is a plus


a shame bynum has such a bad attitude, he literally could have been a hall of famer, i believe he is that good. now i dont think he will play again. hes only like 26ish

Bulls have a bigger problem, Rose is simply not a winner. Amazing point guard yes but not a winner.

He can't stay healthy long enough to show whether he is a winner or not.

Bynum really could have been a force in the league if he had his head on right.

"Bynum is expected to clear waivers and become a free agent by the end of the week. Though he was suspended by the Cavs for one game for conduct detrimental to the team and excused from team activities, he is expected to be chased on the open market. The Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat and New York Knicks are among the teams expected to consider offering him a landing spot."

O god, please not the Heat. I have little doubt that in a great environment he is a very good player, and their bigs have been their weakness.

My Suggestions
 

How about team contraction? to improve the quality of play scale back about 4 or 5 teams who is watching Memphis, Orlando, Milwaukee, Charlotte, New Orleans, Sacramento

Memphis has had a decent run the last few years, just not this one.

I think it sounds good but I can't see it happening.

i dont imagine anyone would even notice if the bucks or bobcats got contracted lol

cavs made out like bandits in that bynum deal. i wanna see them succeed.

but its the heats title to lose

The Raptors are in kind of an interesting position right now. With how terrible the East is, they can actually win their division and a playoff round right now. They are absolutely no threat to beat the Heat or Pacers, but it might be good for the franchise to actually see what winning feels like.

On the other hand, if they don't make the playoffs, they have a shot at a Canadian who is a legit first overall-caliber player. The problem with the Raptors when they get a superstar is that they always want to bolt for the States. Wiggins likely wouldn't do that.

What would you want if you were a fan of the team: tank for a shot at Wiggins (if you actually believe any of these lotteries are rigged, you'd better believe Wiggins would be a Raptor), or try to get a playoff series win under their belt?

this yr id tank. i DO believe the lotteries are rigged and ive said since BEFORE last yrs draft that if the raptors are in the lottery, they WILL get wiggins. you just watch i am stickin by that comment


nobody on earth can watch the patrick ewing draft and tell me it wasnt rigged. jus tlook at the look on the faces of everyone involved. its SO obvious

NBA is the most crooked of pro sports. I remember that Sacramento/Lakers game many years ago that was such a joke and the refs were clearly on the take. Yet its still my fave sport.

i love nba too but its easily the easiest sport to shave points. i think it happens all the time. start gamblin a lot on games, you will pay attention to spreads and see just how screwy soooo many games are. its obvious.


the lakers vs kings series was unfortunate. kings got shafted and that was a really fun team. webber, bibby, christie, bobby jackson, vlade, pollard, peja, etc. great team.

Exactly! Great team. I just remember redonkulous foul call after foul call against Sac. It was so clear the David Stern fix was in.

The refs actually even admitted that they were trying to make sure the Lakers won.

This season has been pretty boring so far overall, mostly because my favorite player (I don't have a favorite team) is in the east and the east is just a joke this year.

I'd really love to see Portland solidify themselves as perennial contenders. They've made some stupid draft choices but also have gotten some serious bad luck. Both Greg Oden and Brandon Roy were well on their way to being superstars, but we all know how that worked out. They've come up with a really balanced roster and I like a lot of their players, and I think they could be contenders for years.

NBA is rigged.

I stopped watching over the summer after they pulled that stunt with the Spurs.

The Spurs should have won.

Whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?

Good, ignorant fools like you don't deserve to watch a sport as great as basketball

I actually wish I was alive in the 70's and 80's when the NBA had more talent and the sport was actually worth watching.

Back in the day they had six hall of famers on one team and in today's NBA there is only 3 or 4 good ball players.

The sport is so bad they actually rig certain games and make bad calls just to make games more interesting because of the lack of talent.

Based on the ratings of the sport over the years, people don't really watch the NBA anymore like they use too. Basketball is a fantastic sport but basketball and what they do in the NBA are two different worlds.

The NBA does not fairly and accurately reflect the sport...anymore.

Realtalk..... literally every single thing u just said is completely wrong lol and I'm dead serious

Im not even speaking from opinion right now...everything you said is LITERALLY factually incorrect.

Based on ratings? The NBA's ratings have been absolutely fantastic for the past decade. The NBA's ratings were AWFUL in the 70's and only started to pick up in the 80's when Bird and Magic were having their epic finals showdowns.

Six hall of famers on one team? Please point me in the direction of that team. I'm having trouble thinking of any team with even 4. There were definitely teams with 3 hall of famers though, namely Larry Bird, Robert Parish and Kevin McHale. But there are teams like that nowadays too, with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh all definitely potential HoFers.

The NBA ratings have not been that good compared to in the 80's and 90's. They recently had their biggest ratings in years over the summer after they rigged game 6 and pushed a game 7 so everybody of course watched.


Wade is good but he is definitely not a hall of famer and LOL at you insisting Bosh is.... REALLY? You really think Bosh is a hall famer? He sucks as a center and everything else.

That was a brought team unlike most of the teams back during those eras. Jordan did not switch to another team just to win a championship. He did not start out winning championships either but he built a team around him which is why I don't really consider the championship's Lebon has in the same light.

Lebron is a good ball player but he is overrated. He is no MJ maybe a Magic but definitly not a MJ.

The fact of the matter is there are not MULTIPLE teams with MULTIPLE potential hall of famers on them.

The NBA talent SUCKS now compared to the 80s and 90s thats a fact.

And don't be calling me no ignorant fool because I am far from it. I just don't drink the kool aid. Show some respect. I didn't call you out your name so give me the same respect or keep it moving.

Again its just factually wrong info. I'm not tryin to be personal or seem cool cause I know more but it just makes no sense. Id elaborate more if I wasn't on mobile but saying wade idnt a hall of famer........ lol.jpg wut.jpg confused.gif

He's the 3rd best shootin guard of all time

Skill level is so much higher.

Better coaching. Better fitness. Better diet. Better knowledge. Bigger talent pool (global).

lol Guys take their sports wayyyy too personally but then again I should have known better haha

Is it possible to engage in an intelligent mature sport conversation with a man?

Geez...

I will moonwalk back to the music forums.

done. im done. you know about as much about basketball as a 2 year old. leave this thread before you make yourself look even more stupid.

Not only that, it's pretty easy to come up with an argument to put him in top 15 or so all-time. Not quite top 10, but during his prime he was as devastating as Kobe, easily. Kobe was just able to maintain his prime much longer than Wade because, you know, Wade's knees :(

Yes, we are clearly being unintelligent and immature by combating your outrageous claims with arguments.

I was. I started following the NBA in the 1960's. There were bad calls in every decade. If you want to say that the NBA has become a soft, finesse league compared to the game of Bird and Magic and Isiah Thomas and Jordan, I'll give you that argument and agree. But your contention that the game is rigged is absolute horseshit. You don't know WTF you're talking about.

Of course you can express your opinion but you can still express it but still be respectful which some in here obviously can't do


Thank goodness you "get it" lol

That is obviously what I am saying and I do stand by my opinion that there are more bad calls and referees getting paid to make bad calls more so now than in past decades.

I don't think everything is all fair and accurately represented when it comes to media and entertainment because alot of times it isn't.

There are a ton of stories and even cases of referrees who have been paid to cheat by people in the NBA. So not sure why people are making it seem like this is a taboo issue.

Not sure why people are so outrage with the idea that the NBA overall does not have as much talent that they use to compared to other decades when past hall famers and legendary ball players have said it them self on national television.

> makes hilariously outrageous claims
> gets called out for makin false claims
> gets angry ppl called her out on bs
> repeats claims again



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There is wayyyy more talent in the nba now. Its not even close