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anticipation 12-01-2008 02:13 PM

creatine is really bad for you dude.

thegoldlaw 12-01-2008 02:53 PM

I am sure you all know, but just making sure when you say 24-48 you are in reference to muscles and not working out in general. For me I love working out 4 days a week, Monday-upper body, Tuesday legs, Thursdays - upper body and friday - legs.

Reasoning behind this: Muscles come in pairs for the most part. When one muscle is flexing the other muscle is stretching. There are muscles that dont really follow this; obliques being one of them. But the major muscles follow this, Back/chest, tricep/bicep, lower back/abs and Quads. I don't seperate quads because when I lift every muscle is being used in both flexing and stretching.

So by doing upper body in 1 day you are working all the major muscle groups along with giving them a good stretch which promotes better muscle growth. Legs in general to the intensity I do them make me more tired and worn out mentally then any upper body routine could. Because of this I like to give them their own day

Laces Out Dan! 12-01-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 555887)
creatine is really bad for you dude.

Dont worry, Ive done more than enough research on it man. I know they havent been able to take tests on long term results on the body (15 years +) But up to that point they havent found anything bad on your body except to your liver and kidneys if you dont do whats necessary to keep them healthy. I went to my health store today and bought a jar of Milk Thistle pills. And as for working out in body parts..I dont do nearly as much legs as I used to when I was playing basketball in highschool, but I mostly do back and biceps one day, and chest and triceps another day. I'll try and get a couple sets of shoulders in after my main workout at least 2-3 times a week and those are the muscles Ive noticed the most change in within the last 2 months, my delts especially.

anticipation 12-01-2008 03:18 PM

when i used to hit the weights for off-ice in the summer, i would leg press 400lbs with like 3 sets of 30 reps without breaking a sweat. now my knees are fucked to shit, and i can only get up to like 370. i've never liked doing arms so i never would, nor would i do my chest. i usually did lots of back and hamstring workouts, but having big pecs or biceps are worthless if you don't have a solid core.

Laces Out Dan! 12-01-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 555910)
when i used to hit the weights for off-ice in the summer, i would leg press 400lbs with like 3 sets of 30 reps without breaking a sweat. now my knees are fucked to shit, and i can only get up to like 370. i've never liked doing arms so i never would, nor would i do my chest. i usually did lots of back and hamstring workouts, but having big pecs or biceps are worthless if you don't have a solid core.

Well its not worthless...but working out most parts of your body is pretty useless if its for anything other than just looking big. And even with that a strong core along with flexibility is one way to get aound injuries.

anticipation 12-01-2008 03:27 PM

definately, i'm saying that building off a strong core is what most successful athletes do.

luckily, i was born naturally flexible.

Laces Out Dan! 12-01-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 555925)
definately, i'm saying that building off a strong core is what most successful athletes do.

luckily, i was born naturally flexible.

I wish I could say the same about the flexibilty. Ive had to work hard to get my body more flexible. And as for the core, when I was playing basketball I had an insanely strong core. Think of all the greatest players in their specific sports.Dwyane Wade and Lebron James both soar through the air, absorb contact and are still able to finish. Players who are so strong on their skates they can't be bodied around. My buddy's old coach played in some game with Crosby at some point and said he had never played someone who was so hard to muscle off the puck. That comes from a good base and a strong ass core.

thegoldlaw 12-01-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 555913)
Well its not worthless...but working out most parts of your body is pretty useless if its for anything other than just looking big. And even with that a strong core along with flexibility is one way to get aound injuries.


I really do hope that comment above was for dramatic effect. There is absolutely NO way that working your whole body is useless.

anticipation 12-01-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LesPaul43 (Post 555935)
I wish I could say the same about the flexibilty. Ive had to work hard to get my body more flexible. And as for the core, when I was playing basketball I had an insanely strong core. Think of all the greatest players in their specific sports.Dwyane Wade and Lebron James both soar through the air, absorb contact and are still able to finish. Players who are so strong on their skates they can't be bodied around. My buddy's old coach played in some game with Crosby at some point and said he had never played someone who was so hard to muscle off the puck. That comes from a good base and a strong ass core.


word, those doods are intense,
and building a core is super fun too, all those workouts with medicine balls and divebombers are wicked.

Laces Out Dan! 12-01-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw (Post 555938)
I really do hope that comment above was for dramatic effect. There is absolutely NO way that working your whole body is useless.

I worded that very strangely, im not even sure what I was trying to get at by putting it that way. What I meant is that if you're working out for a good reason like being stronger, faster, or quicker for something, then a strong core is as important as anything beause when you can lock your core when excersizing it puts the focus on the muscles you're trying to focus on. The whole thing I said about doing w/e if you just wanna be big is that people like that may be strong but its sort of a non practical build if they have a weak core.


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