World Cup 2014 thread

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-20-2014, 12:03 PM

We are officially #out. Same old story, pissing myself here. Linekar then:

"Can't wait for Euro 2016" with monotonous delivery.

Amusing.

Mr. Charlie · 06-20-2014, 12:22 PM

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-20-2014, 12:32 PM

Arguments that crop up every time we go out of a tournament:

- Too many foreigners in the English league
- We need a foreign manager
- No we need an English manager
- English players need to move abroad to better their game
- Manager was unproven
- Change things from top to bottom
- Players are on £100k per week to play like that

Etc. Don't know why we can't just say we ended up in a tough group (because we weren't in the top 8 and thus not seeded) and lost to better teams.

Still think the players are there.

Mr. Charlie · 06-20-2014, 12:52 PM

Oh, the players are there, but they seldom play well as a team. I don't know enough about football to pretend to know why that is, but it seems a common theme in England teams. Maybe Vialli was right, maybe the big occasions get to English players and they simply bottle it.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-20-2014, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

Oh, the players are there, but they seldom play well as a team. I don't know enough about football to pretend to know why that is, but it seems a common theme in England teams. Maybe Vialli was right, maybe the big occasions get to English players and they simply bottle it.

The last game where we genuinely dominated for 90 minutes was the 5-1 at Wembley vs Croatia, 2009ish that would have been. The last tournament game... Denmark in 2002.

One thing I do think is an issue is players being picked because of who they play for. This is basically undeniable. I was disappointed Delph didn't get picked, looks even sillier post-Rooney/Italy.

I saw Vialli's comments, he is right that they handle pressure better than we do.

Mojo · 06-20-2014, 01:10 PM

We English love to be ****ing cynical and exaggerate weaknesses.

I don't know about anyone else but I was more excited by the potential in this England squad than I have been in a long time and I'm hopeful of being able to say the same for the Euros. It's not ridiculous to think the likes of Barkley, Sterling, Sturridge, Henderson and others could be better footballers in two years time.

Mr. Charlie · 06-20-2014, 01:24 PM

Hopefully Roy will be long gone by then. I swear he got the job largely because he's English.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-20-2014, 01:58 PM

Anyone else getting annoyed by "Blah zeeeeel, BLAH ZEEEEEEEEEEEEL!"

?

Mojo · 06-20-2014, 02:03 PM

It's the highlight of ITVs coverage.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-20-2014, 02:11 PM

It actually is. They just missed the kick off of the second half because the pundits were too busy talking shit.

06-20-2014, 01:10 PM	#426 (permalink)
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06-20-2014, 02:03 PM	#429 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	It's the highlight of ITVs coverage. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

06-20-2014, 12:03 PM	#421 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	We are officially #out. Same old story, pissing myself here. Linekar then: "Can't wait for Euro 2016" with monotonous delivery. Amusing.

06-20-2014, 12:22 PM	#422 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308

06-20-2014, 12:32 PM	#423 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Arguments that crop up every time we go out of a tournament: - Too many foreigners in the English league - We need a foreign manager - No we need an English manager - English players need to move abroad to better their game - Manager was unproven - Change things from top to bottom - Players are on £100k per week to play like that Etc. Don't know why we can't just say we ended up in a tough group (because we weren't in the top 8 and thus not seeded) and lost to better teams. Still think the players are there.

06-20-2014, 12:52 PM	#424 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	Oh, the players are there, but they seldom play well as a team. I don't know enough about football to pretend to know why that is, but it seems a common theme in England teams. Maybe Vialli was right, maybe the big occasions get to English players and they simply bottle it.

06-20-2014, 01:24 PM	#427 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	Hopefully Roy will be long gone by then. I swear he got the job largely because he's English.

06-20-2014, 01:58 PM	#428 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Anyone else getting annoyed by "Blah zeeeeel, BLAH ZEEEEEEEEEEEEL!" ?

06-20-2014, 02:11 PM	#430 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	It actually is. They just missed the kick off of the second half because the pundits were too busy talking shit.