Umm, CM is exactly what they need.

Eez a pruppa doyva.

lol?

Giggs - Ancient
Fletcher - Been out for two years, with his arse intact he'd be good but not at the level he was in 2009
Jones - Better at CB
Carrick - Good but getting on a bit
Powell - Played about 3 times for them and is totally unproven
Anderson - Overweight, hot & cold player, mostly cold

I'm not really gutted as the chances of us signing any real young, english talent under this regime are next to nil. If we have any competition apparently we can't compete with anyone, perhaps Swansea and Norwich have bigger gates than us...

Yeah, Diouf never really lived up to the 2002 WC when he and Papa Boppa Diop (the Man Mountain) made their entrance. But if they can do a job you have to try and put up with them.

6/1 isn't bad actually, the championship should be good this year. I guess winning it might depend if Leicester or QPR splash any more cash in the summer because they'd be up there then. Be interesting to see how Brighton do without Poyet too and whether Billy Davies can finally break his/forest's playoff curse.

Who would you say favourites are?

If Redknapp can sort QPR out I'd say they are favourites. All depends on signings doesn't it, so I suppose that means Leicester will be up there somewhere come May. After those two I think there's 6 or 7 clubs that will fancy their chances, Leeds ( I'm slightly biased obviously ), Reading, Brighton, Watford, Wigan, Bolton and I'm sure there's a few more. I hope Davis doesn't get Forest promoted, no other reason than I just love seeing them fail.

Cant wait for the Sheff Wed game, 90 minutes of you're peado songs to Dave Jones haha. I loved it when he called all Leeds fans vile animals last season.

Yeah, that's why I wouldn't bet before the start of the season really, so much can change with the window. I agree on some of those teams but imo Watford will be ****ed with the new loan rule, Wigan have lost some of their best/could lose the rest of their good players and Bolton don't look anything special to me. I'd like to see Boro give it a good go too, the less london/S east clubs the better.

This is what I mean, i'm not sure what people expect when they let your lot know that you're doing a good job of winding them up :laughing:

Can't believe how badly Birmingham City have fell off tbh.

McLeish's legacy :rofl:

Yep, and yet he is actually still their most successful manager in their history (serious.)

1 major honour and European football.

:D

:laughing:

^ haha

I've always thought it must be so terrible to be a Birmingham fan, have they always been shiit? They have haven't they. How any football club could give Mcleish the managers job amazes me, I nod off during a 20 second interview with him.

I hope the songs sang at the Cardiff/Swansea games next season are disgusting, Sky hate it dont they. Lots of " Gary Neville is a wanker" please.

They consider it a badge of honour that they were the first British team to play in Europe, even though it was in a no mark competition.

Around 2002 though they looked to be on the up, they had some decent players, Dunn, Heskey (was effective), Dugarry, Savage (again effective). They finished mid table and bettered it the following season. Then they lost to Leeds and it all went downhill. Came back, won a trophy and are on a big decline now.

Fabregas would play either CAM or CM. He isn't the type of CM that would compliment Carrick as he is a little too slow and doesn't defend much. And they already have Rooney and Kagawa for CAM.

They need a CM like Ramsey or Vidal.

Ah I see, hype him up and then try to offload him. Sneaky sneaky.

A soon to be 40 yr old Ryan Giggs and unproven 19 year old Nick Powell don't really compliment Carrick either.

Cesc would be a massive upgrade on anyone they've got in midfield.

...........Carrick.......Cesc..............
Nani.............Kagawa............Zaha
...........Sexy Dutch Bastard..........

Looks fine to me tbh.

I'm sure Rooney will be off anyway. Not that I think he can play in midfield.

Anyone heard the latest regarding Rooney?

Sky Sports are reporting that Chelsea have made a bid of 10m + Mata or Luiz for Rooney. United say they declined. But Chelsea have hit back and said the bid was only a monetary one. Seems like it's now turning into a war between United and Chelsea for Rooney.

So from what I can see, either United have leaked some bollocks to the press to unsettle a couple of Chelsea players or Chelsea are lying and are trying to backtrack so as to not piss their own players off. I think it's the latter. Chelsea are hardly gonna come out and say 'yes, we offered them a couple of our players', if they didn't then they'd have issued a statement straight away but it must've took about four hours.

Seems like this has got legs though. The hamstring injury, Rooney's leak to the press yesterday (:mad: + :confused:) and now a bid?

That midfield would get absolutely destroyed Fluffy. Can't just put some names in a mix and hope it works. Ramsey would be a better signing for United (as a CM partner for Carrick) than Cesc.

Again, as opposed to a creaking Giggs and shitty arsed cunt Fletcher?

I don't see the problem with the mix of players, Carrick stays deep, Cesc is the all action centre mid and Kagawa pushes up. Nothing wrong with that midfield.

Why would Ramsey be so much better? Scholes was a slow CAM as well, can't recall him being great at defending either yet he and Carrick were superb together :confused:

Come on man. I know you aren't stupid. Cesc is suddenly "all-action"? The guy barely defends and hardly adds anything other than pure creativity.

And Carrick was a physical specimen a few years back. Started slowing down -hence the need for a more dynamic partner - with Carrick adopting the "Scholes" role (never a CAM alongside Carrick, by the way).

Ramsey has more energy, much better defender etc. That's what United need. Kagawa and Rooney are already World Class #10's, no need for another.

lol'd :D

He isn't all action to be fair, but Carrick would be the deep lying playmaker and Cesc could play from the centre. It's certainly a step up from the piss poor options they have at the moment.

06/07, which was their best season together, they were both central attacking midfielders, they just alternated during games.

Rooney won't be there next season though so he's irrelevant.

The last point is fair :)

And if you have a deeper lying CM, he generally tends to be the "passer" of the team in modern football. You play a more dynamic player ahead of them.

Good news lads:

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/68/...2082024,00.jpg

Tekkers has signed a 4 year contract :cool:

So one more year, hopefully a good season and good WC then he'll be sold for 20m+ more than likely. But delighted to have him for another season anyway. And also fuck off Tottenham for tapping him up.

Come at us.

I saw that earlier on today, do you think its another Rooney situation, the player gets an extra £20 grand a week but he's still very pissed off and villa have only postponed him leaving for another year?

Surely a club like Aston Villa should be able to attract a quality striker that actually wants to play for them and isn't only there for the money. I'd have sold him and bought Rhodes from Blackburn.

Yeah, he's obviously been told that if he gives us another season and signs a contract so we get more money for him, then he can go.

All players are only there for the money though, the problem with us is we can't currently give players the success or platform (Europe) for them to stay once a club that can shows interest in them.

We are undoubtedly big but who wants to fight relegation or finish mid table every year?

Watch Benteke have a flop of a 2nd season and not get the move he wants lol

Said similar on the Villa board I post on. It would be typical.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-ready-2067746

Suárez to Arsenal, Rooney to Chelsea.

I expect both deals to happen.

Arsenal being linked to Brazilians Bernard and Gustavo. Would prefer Bernard (if I had to choose one) but if we only sign one attacker, then Gustavo makes a lot of sense. Wilshere CAM (prefer him CM) and Gustavo CM with Ramsey.

Losing 1.0 away at Walsall in a pre-season friendly, apparently we made them look like Brazil. Neil Warnock has a lot to answer for, we cant get rid of the utter garbage he signed this time last year.

I was hoping three or four hundred Leeds fans would have gone to Birmingham to give the EDL a good kicking, apparently the filth wouldn't allow it. Shame it wasn't Leeds coppers they usually let Leeds fans have half an hour kicking heads in when Millwall come to Leeds ( if you can catch them, cockneys are good runners), far too pink and liberal this country these days.



ps. I almost forgot to mention, how ridiculous is that new Aston Villa away kit and why does pub team spring to mind whenever I see it. :)

The away kit is lovely?

http://shop.avfc.co.uk/cms_media/ima...3000017_h1.jpg

Tried something different and it's worked.

Suarez and Bernard would be pretty awesome for us. Not sure how likely it is, but Suarez in particular would put up in that next level.

Bernard signing would also signify Wilshere moving to a deeper position which I think is necessary. He was atrocious playing attacking midfield.

Have you seen Bernard play? Is he good?

Oh and - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...rpool-transfer

You can keep the change lol

For the filthy animal?

Be interesting to see who Liverpool go after if he goes for 40mil. They've made a decent profit but lost their key man, but that being said Coutinho looks a great purchase.

This is the team that paid £35 million for Andy Carroll so they'll probably end up buying Darren Bent and half an easter egg.

True, but they seem to have by and large got over that madness, recently they've done alright. Good value on Coutinho, sturridge has yet to find consistency but if he can he'll have been well worth the outlay. 15 mil back for Carroll isn't bad and I mean, they got 6 mil for shelvey ffs. The real waste was Downing :laughing:

I hope they don't buy Bent. He's about as good as Newcastle can hope for these days. ****ing tragic.

So unbelievably excited by the prospect of Suarez in an Arsenal shirt.

why Suarez would want to join Arsenal is beyond me...not really a big step up, Liverpool were never going to sell there best player to a rival to begin with. Leave that sort of thing to Arsenal

For Suarez to join Arsenal would be a huge step in my opinion! I don't think this remarkably good moment of his will last very long and it (and he) will help Arsenal lift a cup after some long time. By the way, have you read Fever Pitch? Enthralling book by a genuine Gunner!

Agreed with the first point. I said exactly that a month or so back in this thread. But, you obviously have short term memory loss in regards to the bolded part of your statement

do you not remember this guy?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...3_Ismdp6sMLWFb

Erm... Arsenal is a huge step up from Liverpool.

And we will sign him.

In what way are Arsenal a step up from Liverpool?