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Old 08-14-2010, 08:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Ibanez nut

Hey guys, I have a couple simple questions.

Are these kind of nuts on Ibanez guitars supposed to have this gap under them?



And does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? (like, should I trim it or the guitar?)

Info is appreciated, thanks.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you buy that guitar new?
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No, they aren't. Are those strings under tension? Because if they are thats a serious problem.

A loose nut on its own is no big deal, the only real reason they're glued on is to stop them moving around. A little glue and its fine.

BUT, if your nut is like that even with string pressure on it, you have a very serious issue going on and I suggest you look at getting a luthier to work on it.

And remember, guitars come with warranties like everything else, so look at getting it done under warranty.

Edit: Also, Satchmo, how DARE you ninja me by replying to an Ibanez thread before I could!
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Edit: Also, Satchmo, how DARE you ninja me by replying to an Ibanez thread before I could!

I know, usually I'll add the obligatory, "Better wait for GB to get here, He'll know for sure".

It looks like someone has tried messing with it.
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And does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? (like, should I trim it or the guitar?)
first off - new or used guitar? if it was new and shipped like that - return it.


otherwise - i'd just use an exacto knife and a nail file - on the nut. unless you've got a high end model with a compensated nut (like Earvana or Buzz Feiten systems) but judging from the pic and craftsmanship, you don't, it's likely just a misformed chunk of plastic.

actually a closer look at the picture and the curve in the nut makes it look like it was removed and put in again backwards (but that might also be due to lighting). either way, it's not a huge deal and not something i'd consider serious enough to take to a luthier, especially if it's not a $1000+ guitar. just make sure to keep checking to see if the piece fits properly before you start whittling too much of it away.
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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first off - new or used guitar? if it was new and shipped like that - return it.
Used, bought it like three years ago.

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otherwise - i'd just use an exacto knife and a nail file - on the nut. unless you've got a high end model with a compensated nut (like Earvana or Buzz Feiten systems) but judging from the pic and craftsmanship, you don't, it's likely just a misformed chunk of plastic.

actually a closer look at the picture and the curve in the nut makes it look like it was removed and put in again backwards (but that might also be due to lighting). either way, it's not a huge deal and not something i'd consider serious enough to take to a luthier, especially if it's not a $1000+ guitar. just make sure to keep checking to see if the piece fits properly before you start whittling too much of it away.
Cool, thanks!
I could of swore it fit properly when I bought it (maybe it's in backwards, that would be embarrassing) can a nut change shape after a few years of usage?
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No, they aren't. Are those strings under tension? Because if they are thats a serious problem.

A loose nut on its own is no big deal, the only real reason they're glued on is to stop them moving around. A little glue and its fine.

BUT, if your nut is like that even with string pressure on it, you have a very serious issue going on and I suggest you look at getting a luthier to work on it.

And remember, guitars come with warranties like everything else, so look at getting it done under warranty.

Edit: Also, Satchmo, how DARE you ninja me by replying to an Ibanez thread before I could!
Thanks man!
Well, the nut is definitely under tension and the guitar is definitely out of warranty at its 3 years of age. Perhaps I should buy a new nut for the guitar? One that's meant for the guitar?
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Cool, thanks!
I could of swore it fit properly when I bought it (maybe it's in backwards, that would be embarrassing) can a nut change shape after a few years of usage?
not by that much. has the guitar gone through significant temperature changes recently? been left in the case in a trunk under blazing hot sun for an afternoon? drastic changes in condition like that can result in the wood of the instrument expanding or contracting at different rates than the other materials within it. could explain the nut issue.

is the gap happening on the other side of the neck as well or just on the treble side?
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not by that much. has the guitar gone through significant temperature changes recently? been left in the case in a trunk under blazing hot sun for an afternoon? drastic changes in condition like that can result in the wood of the instrument expanding or contracting at different rates than the other materials within it. could explain the nut issue.
The only temperature change that has happened recently was the change from Winter to Summer (65F to 105F, respectively.)

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is the gap happening on the other side of the neck as well or just on the treble side?
Yep, on both sides. The whole nut is evenly lifted from the neck.

Could changing the action cause this?
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nah changing the action wouldn't cause it, neither would naturally going from winter to summer. though that much temperature variance within a day or two...

is the nut still really tight in the gap or can you pop it out? if you can pop it out smoothly then you should be able to thin it out enough to get it to fit smoothly. if it's tight you want to be careful to make sure you don't end up causing damage to the fretboard by cracking or splintering the edge.
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