Can you play the guitar? You honestly thing that the melodies Drake manages to create on Pink Moon are in any way easy? Drake far surpasses the skill of most progressive rock guitarists when it comes to creating melody alone. He's better than Fripp, Gilmour, Latimer, Creen and pretty much most other guitarists at the time. Why do I say this? Because he managed to create just as complex, beautiful and creative soundscapes on Pink Moon alone as they managed with massively talented prog bands.
Now you're just flaming of the sake of it.

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Please tell me this is an elaborate prank.

What makes this statement so ridiculous? Why don't we start discussing the music rather than avoiding it.

I wouldn't say that he is better than Fripp or Gilmour. He is probably better than Latimer.

I mean Lizard alone should tell you that. Drake is a great musician and all of his albums are great. He is no where near Fripp though...

I love Lizard, it is a 10/10 album for me, Fripp is excellent on it, but he alone does not make that album. I gave Pink Moon a 9.8 due to Drake's playing and voice alone. Fripp is a great band leader and guitarist, but Drake is better. I don't think Fripp, if given a stage alone would be able to make as lush music as Drake would with a guitar alone. I probably prefer Fripp's playing most of the time, but as far as skill goes, what Drake displays on record is superior to Fripp.

oh, i can respect their influence and what they've done for music, but when actually concerning their music, it ain't shit. I'm more of a Megadeth man myself. I have Ride the Lightning by Metallica and I have Rust in Peace by Megadeth, and the latter i feel is a more entertaining and musically driven experience

He has a point though, this entire website is based upon subjective debate. What makes this thread any more pointless than asking what your favourite Beatles album is?

This however is completely uncalled for and ruins these things.

Jesus, now you're just making it too obvious that you're joking.

I've listened to Pink Moon, it's probably the most boring thing I've ever subjected myself to listening to (until that Okkervil River album at least), the whole thing just sounded lazy, maybe there's something to his sound that's more original than other folk singers that I didn't catch, but it just sounds like the very basic strummed and fingerpicked open chords that most folk signers use to me, the kinda stuff that every guitar teacher lectures you about before anything else.

There's not a lot of skill required in that kind of playing at all, I can play it, anyone can play it. Even punk rock is more demanding. Now if you say he's a good guitarist, that's your opinion and that's fine.

But Lush? His music sounds pretty damn primitive and stripped down to me. Complex? Now I know you're messing with me.

More technically skilled than Fripp and Latimer? This goes beyond the boundries of having a subjective opinion and just saying something that is flat out objectively wrong. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you say things like this?

I don't really see any irony in someone having different tastes from you. You think Elliot Smith is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinion but keep in mind that your opinion is not some kind of objective fact, and hurling insults at people for not sharing it is really silly.

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