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scottsy 05-31-2009 09:48 AM
I have never been into the Doors so I agree with the notion that they're overrated. I always thought Jim Morrison was just a bit of a ****, personally, and the lyrics are hippie mumbo jumbo trumped up as meaningful insight. Ditto for his terrible poetry.

Persona dressed up as substance...

But I guess I wasn't there and don't really understand the whole sensation of the time... I kinda am looking back on it all with a detached criticism.

Piss Me Off 05-31-2009 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scottsy (Post 669498)
But I guess I wasn't there and don't really understand the whole sensation of the time... I kinda am looking back on it all with a detached criticism.
I have to do that with most music, i wouldn't worry!

boo boo 05-31-2009 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scottsy (Post 669498)
I have never been into the Doors so I agree with the notion that they're overrated. I always thought Jim Morrison was just a bit of a ****, personally, and the lyrics are hippie mumbo jumbo trumped up as meaningful insight. Ditto for his terrible poetry.

Persona dressed up as substance...

But I guess I wasn't there and don't really understand the whole sensation of the time... I kinda am looking back on it all with a detached criticism.
Jeez, does anyone actually care about the actual music anymore?

This trend of putting down bands strictly for their lyrics needs to stop. I hardly even pay attention to their lyrics.

There's nothing about Morrisons lyrics I find particularly upsetting, it's just very cryptic and ambigious, and for very obvious reasons that's not a big deal to me. I don't care if it was something he truly felt deeply about or if it was just something he shat out during a crazed drug trip. It sounds cool, that's all that matters to me. It's hardly any different from the surrealism in Bob Dylan's early rock stuff, or Captain Beefheart or Syd Barrett for that matter.

boo boo 05-31-2009 11:47 AM
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It shattered all convictions that punk rock had perished!
I never said I agreed about him on that part. I don't.

But the idea that prog died because of TFTO and punk rock is very much a hoax. It never died, just lost it's mainstream popularity, which was really for the better of the genre.

ProggyMan 05-31-2009 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by asshat (Post 669385)
these are some overated bands/singers that have probably gotten laid a hell of lot more times than I ever will:

1.talking heads( weirdness so contrived it makes me want to vomit, from that period in the late 70's and early 80's when singing like a mad scientist was considered edgy)
2. the doors
television,van halen,brian eno,u2,daniel lanois, johnny cash, crosby stills and nash(but not young), xtc, pink floyd, elvis presley, the jam, morrisey, clapton,x, arcade fire,exploited, the weakerthans, Dr.Dre(a terrible rapper, the only reason the chronic is enjoyable is because of snoop dogg, and the soul/funk samples he had other people lift and repackage, in fact he serves more of an executive producer role in that he doesn't do jack)

I read someone mention hawkwind, a terribly underated band.
Terrible rapper he may be, but any proof for the rest?

lucifer_sam 05-31-2009 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 669545)
I never said I agreed about him on that part. I don't.

But the idea that prog died because of TFTO and punk rock is very much a hoax. It never died, just lost it's mainstream popularity, which was really for the better of the genre.
i don't understand what people find so alluring about keeping certain kids of music "alive". music is constantly birthing and dying, that's part of the appeal of it to me.

boo boo 05-31-2009 11:58 AM
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i don't understand what people find so alluring about keeping certain kids of music "alive". music is constantly birthing and dying, that's part of the appeal of it to me.
Genres are born, but they never die, they stick around or evolve into something else, even the genres we want to die will never truly go away, how can hair metal truly be dead when Bon Jovi and Motley Crue are still insanely popular?

Disco is probably the closest thing that ever came to truly dying of a horrible death, but even it has seen somewhat of a revival.

This is something hipsters have taught me and taught me well. If a genre fades into obscurity, then 20 years later people are gonna dig it up and make a "revival" out of it, regardless of it's quality.

ProggyMan 05-31-2009 12:07 PM
I must say I find the Wu Tang members solo careers to be hideously overrated. With 2, maybe 3 exceptions it's all a wash of useless, a part in a commercial plan to take over the rap industry.

Comus 05-31-2009 02:13 PM
People will always like crap music, get over it.

asshat 05-31-2009 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 669550)
Terrible rapper he may be, but any proof for the rest?

....not a lot of proof, but I've read interviews with snoop dogg where he'll freely admit that dr.dre's actual musical contributions are pretty minimal, and he serves as more of a "motivator"-saying something is either good or "whack". He might find a funk sample he likes then he'll grab the studio musicians to recreate it-which a lot of hip hop producers-but it doesn't make him a genius.


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