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Old 04-22-2011, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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As Macan wisely noted in his book, religious motifs are important in prog composition.
When they want to bring a sense of "upliftingness" to the climax of an epic, what did the old progsters make use of?: Western liturgical music, choral music...

These heavy religious leanings are nigh trademarks of epic prog tracks.
Look at the bassist's rising line in YES's "Awaken" - and other YES tracks.
How do epics like "Supper's Ready" or "3 Friends" end?

You got it.

True (UK and Italy) 70s prog borrows from the Romantic era (Wagnerian majesty) and Baroque counterpoint. These are highly religious-sounding.

So, Im not gonna argue this. This is FACT: when you want to make your prog "rise" to grandiosity you bring in 1/layering, 2/ religious motifs.


Bagg's isnt talking "the message" here at all.
This isnt a hype for Christian Prog - most of which is shjit-outa-ass anyways.

So far Baggs has just spoken of composition.

So far.


But Baggs is gonna make this thread EASY for you to participate in.
We ARE going to talk of lyrics. Maybe even themes/concepts.

I dont expect you to quote lyrics which support or negate religion in prog.
Baggs realizes your a lazy , non-contributing lot here. And that would be asking too much.

JUST LIST PROG SONGS WHICH DEAL IN FAITH (OR NON-FAITH).

If you try, you just might learn that prog indeed is often very much religion-concerned.


Dont turn this into another thread where the only one contributing is the origional poster.

That just makes you all look ...spongey.


If you dont care to contribute. If you dont like prog...why are you here?
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So whats the first one that comes to most minds.
Baggs is thinking "Aqualung".

Highly anti-God. Side two is basically a concept on it.

So, there we go. Our first example of religion in prog.





"God stole the handle and
The train won't stop going --
No way to slow down. "
- "Locomotive Breath"
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Baggs realizes your a lazy , non-contributing lot here. And that would be asking too much.
I think more people would be inclined to participate (and not troll) if you were less condescending.
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Now Baggs asks you:
what is the most-used theme in the canon of Prog?

It is the (Romantic) theme of NATURE.

Then WAR figures highly in Prog. (You would think Psych would have more to do with the theme of war, wouldnt you? But I contend prog covers the bases even to a greater extent.)

Thirdly , I submit, come the themes of Death and Religion.

"I think more people would be inclined to participate (and not troll) if you were less condescending. "

Sometimes it benefits to spark people into action.
(In SOME cases nothing helps since stagnation is afterall...stagnation.)

But I shall try to be a good doggie, if you so insist.
(Also since good behaviour - and modesty- has always been with The Baggman a distinguishing attribute.)

Roll up!

I give you five ducks, then its your turn.
hokay?


Here goes:
DIONYSOS - Agnus Dies
BOLLENBERG -holy blood
ISIAH - prophet
FUNCTION - last two tracks of the Maestro lp
HAMMILL - the lie

.....
One is not supposed to work on Good Friday.
But Baggs is leaving you now to paint the concrete basement floor of an 82 year-old neighbour who cant afford to hire someone - (since Canada is on its hands and knees and old folks can only get feckin' 1.9% on their investments)..

Because THATS what Baggs is about.

When Baggs returns, Baggs expects to be inundated with a flood of response to this thread.




GORDON GILTRAP - Gethsemane
GILA - sacred (Krautrock is top-heavy with religiousity)
MAINHORSE -God
EKSEPTION -ave maria
COMMUNIDADE -enchiovos, vamos, camisar

PATERNOSTER-the pope is wrong
TRIFLE-new religion
TIM BLAKE - New Jerusalem
PROGRESS- there is light
JONAS OCH EINAR -is god real?



GET IT ON!

SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS -Lazarus
YES - dear father
STRAY - sister mary
MONKMAN -Lord's prayer
TRITONIOUS - Lady Madonna

GET... GET.... GET IT ON!
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If Baggs keeps spamming his own threads Baggs is going to find them locked.
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Lock it then.
Like you lock away all attempts at dissemination of wisdom and taste here.

Lock it deep and throw away the key.
(And after you do this, look up the film "Red Violin" and watch the communist China part of said film.)


......
OFFENBACH -Saint-Chrone de Néant (the prog equivalent of Electric Prunes - Mass in Wotsit)
TURNER & KIRWIN -father Murphy
DIES IRAE- Armaggedon
VISITORS - dies Irae
BAKERY - rock mass
PROCOL - shine on brightly
IVORY - incantation
SCHOENER- meditation
OUT OF FOCUS - blue Sunday
WHITSUNTIDE EASTER -coming of Messiah
WAKIEPOOS - 1984 hymn
EELA CRAIG - missa universalis
GROUNDHOGS - split 4
SISA - La cathedra
STRAWBS -benedictus, the man who called himself Jesus
KINGDOM COME - hymn
WIGWAM - never turn you in
JUKKA GUSTAFFSSON - the entire lp!
MAGNA CARTA - father Time
KILLING FLOOR -out of Uranus
ELOY - de labor solis
RODAN - Watchtower seller
SEATRAIN - Job
MANFRED MANN EARTHBAND - father of night
PLUS - 20,000 people
CANTERBURY GLASS - gloria
JON ANDERSON - to the flyer
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Lock it then.
Like you lock away all spam here.
Fixed.
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