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Old 11-21-2014, 12:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think that VH1 nailed it a few years back when they polled a ton of folks working in the industry.

VH1′s 100 Greatest Artists Of All Time | Thought Catalog

Disagree?

Yes I disagree, b.s. list.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes I disagree, b.s. list.
So who's your 1-2-3-4-5?

Of all time?

Not just your faves.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So who's your 1-2-3-4-5?

Of all time?

Not just your faves.


I meant to tell you something.

I think you and your wife make a nice looking older couple.

Um...lets see.

Some of my favorites I consider as some of the all time greats so it would be extremely hard for me not to include at least some of them in a Top 5.

There are a ton of artists that I consider some of the greatest of all time but I will just name five of them since you asked for five.

In no particular order:

Michael Jackson
Freddie Mercury/Queen
Aretha Franklin
The Carpenters
The Rolling Stones
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You're right, but still,

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Michael Jackson
Freddie Mercury/Queen
Aretha Franklin
The Carpenters
The Rolling Stones
GREAT F*CKING LIST!

I'm not going to argue.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
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GREAT F*CKING LIST!

I'm not going to argue.
Oh stop it!

You have a nice family and thanks!
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:16 AM   #36 (permalink)
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He is by default because he was in an Iconic group

and yes Janet Jackson by definition is an Icon.
Ozzy as a front man is iconic on it's own right
Janet Jackson in my eyes isn't iconic, MJ is but she falls short.

You pointed out some of her iconic performances and those i agree are iconic but she herself isn't an icon imo, in this case i would call her a legend.

If im honest with you, i prefer Janet's music over Ozzy and Prince but as much as i like her i dont think she reaches Icon status like them.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:37 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Okay, so I have commonly witnessed on most music forums/sites that music listeners tend to define the terms "Icon" and "Legend" differently. While these terms are in the same family, they both mean two different things but I often see these terms used interchangeably when they should not be.

I know music opinions are subjective, however, it appears these terms are universally defined with objective measures or criteria.

Here are my opinions on the word Icon and Legend.



You don't become an Icon just because you are popular at a certain given time. That is not what makes a singer Iconic. People tend to automatically associate a singer being popular at a certain time with being iconic and it is not the same. This is a common misconception people make with the word Icon and legend which is why I feel these words have lost their true meanings.

There are plenty of singers and artists that were very popular during their time, won awards and sold out stadiums but they are not icons likewise there are some that did not win a lot of awards or sold out stadiums but they are still considered legendary and Iconic. (i.e Marvin Gaye)


What makes a singer or artist an icon in my opinion is something they have created that is iconic that is associated with them and has becomes apart of pop culture and forever associated with that person good or bad. That is what makes them iconic because they become a symbol of something that they did that we the public associate with. (i.e. albums, attire, performances etc)

For example,Michael Jackson of course, you guys know I love this man. His glitter socks, glitter white glove, black high waters, black fedora, black loafers, black glitter jacket with white glitter arm band (we automatically associate those things with Michael Jackson because of the iconic moment when he first showcased this to the world during the Motown 25 performance (which was/is also iconic)


A Legend is an artist that has made groundbreaking contributions to the music industry that has made a significant cultural impact on music and pop culture. Their music is classic, timeless as well as their videos and performances. Their material is very generational and influences generations which is what makes them legendary. They will always be a present figure in pop culture as a result (whether alive or not).




I don't think there are any Icons or Legends in this pop generation of pop stars. None of them have any Iconic albums, performances or moments that resonates with the public let alone legendary.

Okay now your turn! lol What do you think? What is your opinions on these definitions? Do you think they are objective or subjective? Which one is the more prestigious title?
Bing Crosby was a Icon and a legend. So is Frank Sinatra. The Beatles also. All these performers defined their eras of music end of.
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Ozzy as a front man is iconic on it's own right
Janet Jackson in my eyes isn't iconic, MJ is but she falls short.

You pointed out some of her iconic performances and those i agree are iconic but she herself isn't an icon imo, in this case i would call her a legend.

If im honest with you, i prefer Janet's music over Ozzy and Prince but as much as i like her i dont think she reaches Icon status like them.

You are right.

However,

Janet is an Icon in her own lane but no she is not as Iconic as Michael or Ozzy but to say she is not an Icon is absurd when she has Iconic albums and moments in pop culture.

How do you distinguish between Icon and Legend?
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Bing Crosby was a Icon and a legend. So is Frank Sinatra. The Beatles also. All these performers defined their eras of music end of.

Defining an era does not making someone an Icon or legend.

I wish you posted more!!!
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You are right.

However,

Janet is an Icon in her own lane but no she is not as Iconic as Michael or Ozzy but to say she is not an Icon is absurd when she has Iconic albums and moments in pop culture.

How do you distinguish between Icon and Legend?
I think that being an icon is where you get to the point of being a household name and retaining that even after your prime. To be a legend, well I don't really use that word but I think being a front runner within your genre could qualify for that.
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