Soulflower

Once again that is a generic definition for what it means to be an Icon because to be an Icon you have to do Iconic things not just be famous

Frownland

I think to be famous you have to do iconic things to a certain degree. Whether it's as iconic as some other moments is a matter of opinion. It's well documented in this thread that we see it differently so I'm going to stick to my famous=iconic opinion. Note that I did take it beyond just being famous by saying that they keep their household name status even when they're not plastered all over the media like Santana or Ozzy.

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Soulflower

Marvin Gaye --- Icon/Legend


Iconic Album:


Iconic songs: Ain't No Mountain High Enough, To Busy Thinking Bout My Baby, Sexual Healing, Ain't That Peculiar, What's Going On, Got to Give it Up Part I&II

Legendary singing duo:

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell

Iconic look:

Soulflower

My point is, not every famous person will become an Icon like your definition implies.

It takes more than that. I understand that we all have different definitions but its just kinda generic to just say a famous person=an Icon.

Frownland

And generic=wrong?

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Soulflower

I didn't say it was wrong.


In my opinion, your definition of Icon is generic.

Frownland

But what's bad about being generic? Doesn't that help give us a standard to define things by?

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Soulflower

Nothing bad about it just explain your reasoning.

You did not really give reasons for your definition which makes your definition vague and kinda meaningless.

All you did was this e.g. Famous person- Icon


Why do you think being famous alone makes someone an Icon?

Explain your reasoning.

I respectfully disagree.

Frownland

I don't see how that's vague, you just summed it up yourself so it sounds like you understand it but I've explained it a bunch of times in this thread, how about you explain what an iconic performance, album, or moment is? Because it doesn't seem very consistent wen you talk about Michael Jackson's distinctive outfits as iconic but write off Lady Gaga's as cheap gimmicks, among other things. I heard she releases albums too! What a gimmick whore!

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Soulflower

Frownland boo relax.


I have explained countless of times what I feel makes an Icon, Iconic performance, Album etc. I even explain in detail in the original OP post.

So why do you feel I have not explained my point?

You on the other hand have not explained your reasoning.

Once again, can you please elaborate? I am interested in knowing.