Songwriting Tips Thread (lyrics, jazz, metal, genre, Linkin Park)

[TheUsedToolguy]

If anyone wants to sell their soul to the devil, and make a lot of $ this is how u do it. You revert back to an earlier, more juvenile state of mind, and put ur self in the place u were in back in junior high school or high school, and then u write music that corresponds to that state of mind. Talking about clothes and relationships that last one week is a good start. U will b very successful, as there r a lot of people who do it. U can c how a highly impressionable group of people such as teens who usually don't get exposed to a wider array of music, and will buy just about any prepackaged crap, that looks good on the outside and is empty on the inside, would make u a very rich person. So, u can c how it relates to selling ur soul to the devil. But couldn't u make the $, and then progress back to ur original state of mind? u might ask Oh, yes u could, but u would lose all the money u made in the process of doing so. Ur innermost being would know that the real u didn't earn it, so if u want to be the real u, u hav to lose the $. The point of the post is this: I've heard a lot of people say-all rich people r bad, and I've heard people say-rich people r good. Well, it's just not that simple, not everything is in black & white. But here's a little black & white, IMO people who r rich r able to stay that way, bcuz they r the same person they were when they were in the process of earning that $. If they were very shallow when they earned it, they will probably b very shallow in order to keep it. So very rare is the rich person who is a very deep person, simply bcuz our society puts so much economic value on extremely shallow things.

[sleepy jack fire drill]

Learn to spell this isn't an AIM chatroom, that was painful to read.

All rich people are bad? Drop the idiotic stereotyping

[TheUsedToolguy]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Learn to spell this isn't an AIM chatroom, that was painful to read.

All rich people are bad? Drop the idiotic stereotyping

Well, there r 2 ways of making money
1. Providing Goods
2. Providing Services
Generally people who provide services, such as doctors, hav to work very hard to get into that profession, and will feel good about the $ they've made. I should hav said that generally people who provide goods r more likely to b more shallow people, materialistic people bcuz thats generally what society deems as worthy products, really shallow, mindless products, or at least the producers become very shallow in the process of marketing that product-which is to stoop to that level of big business idealogy and make people feel like an outsider if they don't hav this product, or make u believe that life doesn't hav very deep meaning, so it's okay to b defined by what u hav rather than what u are. Also Crowquill, if u had read my entire post, u would have noticed that my post was saying that stereotyping was wrong. However I did go into specifics when it came to how people felt about the way they made their money. I.E.-if u use a shallow big business marketing strategy to get a lot of $, u will probably hav to stay a shallow person to keep that $.

[sleepy jack fire drill]

Using a shallow marketing stragey that sells doesn't make you shallow, it makes you a smart business man. You're stereotyping again.

[TheUsedToolguy]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Using a shallow marketing stragey that sells doesn't make you shallow, it makes you a smart business man. You're stereotyping again.

yes, that's true, and same w/ all the tyrants the world has ever seen. You can help yourself by hurting others. Leading in a way that helps yourself and hurts others isn't really leading. In fact, the only way to help people who are so misguided is for people like me to be very brash w/ them and brutally honest. I go far out of my way to point out things about people I don't like, before I go and try to fool them into buying something of mine that isn't worth a damn.

[sleepy jack fire drill]

I have no idea what you're even talking about.

[acratertocoffin]

Dude, get off your pedestal, and by off I mean out and by pedestal I mean hole, and read what you just said with a straight face.

[TheUsedToolguy]

Originally Posted by acratertocoffin

Dude, get off your pedestal, and by off I mean out and by pedestal I mean hole, and read what you just said with a straight face.

I read it w/ a straight face, and I hav to admit I don't always go out of my way to point out people's faults. That would result in me getting beaten up a lot. However, I would like to point out that way too often in society, people are telling people what they want to hear instead of giving them the truth. Hey, I've learned through experience the hard way that you can't change others. I just find it hard to believe that so many people don't realize the harm that all of the dishonesty and deceitfulness in our society causes. But, like I said I'm through trying to help and change others, and the more this country goes down in ruins, the more I'm just going to b sitting around laughing @ everyone for their inability to admit to mistakes and narrow-mindedness. I could see here and tell you about anything from my past, and I sure as heck wouldn't be proud of it, but that is how valuable I deem honesty. Now tell me w/ a straight face that u r willing to do the same.

[Ornette]

Yeah but are you a good songwriter?

[Frances]

Originally Posted by Ornette

Yeah but are you a good songwriter?

ZANG!