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Old 11-24-2011, 08:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I never really thought that to be honest. I always thought kurt cobain was full of crap in a lot of ways. Especially when he made comparisons between his music and the pixies. I understand some matters of dynamics but the connection I thought wasn't really there as much as kurt professed. I am in no way an anti kurt cobain person in fact I have found a huge amount of good music through him but I don't really think he always knew what he was talking about.

Btw this is all based on the assumption that you have heard about the influence kurt cobain professed about his love for the pixies.
Yeah, and he also said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was his best attempt at making a catchy, Pixies rip off
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Old 11-24-2011, 08:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, and he also said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was his best attempt at making a catchy, Pixies rip off
Listening to his suicide note was what really made me realize how he had no real consistent view on many things. He seemed to me like a very very insecure person who was stricken with fame and didn't know what to do about it. Hes so ridden with contradictions in what he says I find it astonishing how idolized he can be at times. Its actually quite interesting how unremarkable he was in a lot of ways. Makes him exceptionally human.
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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truth is Nirvana sounds notting like the pixies.. they popularized the pixies "loud, quiet, loud" dynamic the pixies are credited for inventing (though im not sure they did)

Teen spirit? sounds notting like the pixies.. but since they had no reference for that "New dynamic" Except the pixies, they associated it with the Pixies as a vague reference..

look, i love Nirvana but they don't even come close to the Pixies.. Kurt may be more charismatic than Frank, but not more talented than him.. it's always like this.. some band gets popular by emulating underrated cult bands that they love.. there's nothing wrong with appreciating your influences, however, what tends to happen is that in order to reach a wider audience this bands just give a mediocre mainstream safe bet version of that sound.. especially when signing with major labels.

does anyone remember Silver chair? was that not a "Nirvana Version for kids"? lol

(they had a couple of songs that were good though)
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i liked Silverchair
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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truth is Nirvana sounds notting like the pixies.. they popularized the pixies "loud, quiet, loud" dynamic the pixies are credited for inventing (though im not sure they did)

Teen spirit? sounds notting like the pixies.. but since they had no reference for that "New dynamic" Except the pixies, they associated it with the Pixies as a vague reference..

look, i love Nirvana but they don't even come close to the Pixies.. Kurt may be more charismatic than Frank, but not more talented than him.. it's always like this.. some band gets popular by emulating underrated cult bands that they love.. there's nothing wrong with appreciating your influences, however, what tends to happen is that in order to reach a wider audience this bands just give a mediocre mainstream safe bet version of that sound.. especially when signing with major labels.

does anyone remember Silver chair? was that not a "Nirvana Version for kids"? lol

(they had a couple of songs that were good though)
Frank Black in every way is more charismatic than Kurt Cobain. Kurt Cobain was an insecure angst ridden teenager latching onto unrealistic permanent solutions to finding happiness in ever changing circumstance. Because of this he is ridden with contradiction. He never grew out of this. Frank Black on the other hand from what I know and what I have seen is a much more level headed and really knew what he wanted especially musically.

Interestingly enough I find Kurt Cobain fascinating in many ways. I find it wonderfully human how he is so incredibly normal. At least to me he seems to be just a kid who struggled with his identity. I think that is largely the reason why he always believed he was misunderstood. Its pretty hard to understand him to me not because he actually was different but because he over emphasized his personal perception of being different. I think a lot his fans who he didn't like where just like him. A bunch of kids who never fully realized how normal it is (but not necessarily right) to feel like your different from every body else. I think there is great irony in this. Its almost as if Kurts fans who he would have hated the most would have been the fans he probably would have had the most in common with.

I think if you look between the lines with Kurt Cobain's life you can get a very human real depiction of a celebrity. More than I have ever personally seen.
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Your all linking these two bands together because they were around at the same time.

The music is really quite different, but I like both equally
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I liked Silverchair for the constantly changing haircuts. Never out of ideas!
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does anyone remember Silver chair? was that not a "Nirvana Version for kids"? lol

(they had a couple of songs that were good though)
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I liked a few singles by Silverchair as well. I always thought that Wes Scantlin (vocals/rhythm guitar) for the band "Puddle Of Mudd" resembled Cobain's voice and style a lot also.

Seether is another band that sounds highly influenced by Nirvana too.

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I liked a few singles by Silverchair as well. I always thought that Wes Scantlin (vocals/rhythm guitar) for the band "Puddle Of Mudd" resembled Cobain's voice and style a lot also.

Seether is another band that sounds highly influenced by Nirvana too.
funny you should mention those 2 bands, the puddle of mudd singer even looks like kurt however the seether singer sounds more like kurt..

but yeah, your right, even Stain & Creed also sound influenced by him..
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funny you should mention those 2 bands, the puddle of mudd singer even looks like kurt however the seether singer sounds more like kurt..

but yeah, your right, even Stain & Creed also sound influenced by him..
You're right about Staind, I'd have to think about Creed awhile, I always thought they sounded more like a generic brand of Pearl Jam.
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