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Barnard17 · 01-26-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk

It seems like everytime new mods are appointed there are those who complain about who was chosen ...

Because they're given too much responsibility/power incredibly quickly without ANY doctoring or announcement. Start them off as local mods and people get to learn how they conduct themselves in the position, and they can get use to having a workload. Not to mention that the staff can see how well they cope. Then if they prove themselves people would be much more accepting of peoples promotions to global level.

hookers with machineguns · 01-26-2006, 01:25 PM

I personally think there is a conflict of interest whenever you make a popular member into a moderator. But, in most cases, it turns out fine. I think as long as you have one mod that knows a thing or two about music, the rest will take care of the spam. When I was mod, I never had to go to the Lounge. Why? Because the rest of the mods were already there.

I think the admin is out of touch with the boards, but that's all I'm going to say on that. But really, does this affect our boards that much? No not really. The intelligent music discussion is still going to be there (probably getting ignored

). You have to realize that most of the drama happens in the Lounge, and really that's never been that detremental to the site.

hookers with machineguns · 01-26-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fal

Because they're given too much responsibility/power incredibly quickly without ANY doctoring or announcement. Start them off as local mods and people get to learn how they conduct themselves in the position, and they can get use to having a workload. Not to mention that the staff can see how well they cope. Then if they prove themselves people would be much more accepting of peoples promotions to global level.

I agree with that. Even now, there still is a lot of stuff left to the mod's discretion, and sometimes it is not received favorably by the other mods, members, admin, etc. I think the mod staff should be given some sort of generic guidelines and tips to follow, it probably would have helped me out a bunch when I first got started.

Fenixpunk · 01-26-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fal

Because they're given too much responsibility/power incredibly quickly without ANY doctoring or announcement. Start them off as local mods and people get to learn how they conduct themselves in the position, and they can get use to having a workload. Not to mention that the staff can see how well they cope. Then if they prove themselves people would be much more accepting of peoples promotions to global level.

they get plenty of questions answered, tips on how to deal with people and overall help in the mod forum if they ask for it. we dont just throw them out to the lions unprepared.

Barnard17 · 01-26-2006, 01:31 PM

Maybe so, but you still dump a lion in a crowd of buffalo, and buffalo don't like potential agressors. You can only pick up so much from tips, it's better to start off in the shallow end and break yourself in rather than going straight for the diving board.

hookers with machineguns · 01-26-2006, 01:33 PM

Also, I don't think this site really needs more than 5 super mods and 2 admins. It brings down the prestige of the title, especially when it is being passed around generously. Most of the current mods are already very active and doing a good job cleaning up spam.

The idea of local mods is wonderful. It recognizes good posters and would have been a good alternative for All Nite Dinah's case, instead of abruptly ending his modship.

There was one point when the only active mods were me, fenix, and alejo. Only 3 super mods. But, honestly, while everyone was complaining, I thought we were taking care of things very well

. So quality over quantity.

adidasss · 01-26-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I agree, age doesn't mean anything and I realize this is a music forum but as long as the person is checking the music forums and making sure its all on topic, music knowledge isn't required at all.

I think thats stupid because just by that its kind of obvious you don't know them, AITA posts alot in rock and metal and general music just as much (maybe more) then in hardcore and emo. Thrice isn't a mod anymore, nor is all nite dinah. Perfection listens to hardcore/emo/punk/metal which are the most active boards and rise listens to a shiz load of stuff and considering the fact they're doing a fine job of modding its ok, i really don't think we need to elect some purely because they listen to *insert obscure non rock related genre here* because its (usually) barely an active forum. Just my two cents though.

it does matter what type of music you listen to because you're more likely to notice things that happen in forums you frequent

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Originally Posted by Fenixpunk

i suggested AND because of the way the guy thinks, i didnt pull any strings to make him a mod. Ive suggested a few people and point out why i think they should be a mod, doesnt have anything to do with friendships, age, or how long someone has been a member of this forum. I also dont see a problem with PTS becoming a mod. Everyone here seemed to like the kid before, now that hes a mod everyones jumping on his back. Give the kid a chance before you start slinging dirt at him. He may surprise you and be a damn good mod. It seems like everytime new mods are appointed there are those who complain about who was chosen and its usually the same handfull of people everytime. It looks like alot like a case of envy if you ask me (not that anybody would openly admit to it).

if that jab was directed at me, i can assure you that the motive for making this thread wasn't because i wasn't made a mod, it was because two people have been made mods recently that i don't know at all, and as you may or may not have noticed, i'm all over this board and know pretty much everyone.....i mean for god's sake, vanilla made more of an impact on me than that kid, mods are supposed to be people that most people know and/or respect.....most people, not a handful......but that's just my personal opinion......and like i said before, whether you know it or not, modship is not just grunt work given to anybody, there are certain criteria that are usually followed when making someone a mod, and it IS a recognition of that person......i fail to see what perfection did to deserve such a post, especially before the likes of big3, urban or ledzep,what the hell, you can add boo boo , murder junkie or ethan to the list of people i have more respect for than perfection......and i wasn't aware that allnight seiced to be a mod, but the decision to make him one was not thought through in the first place.....

i just thought i'd speak out, i suppose i have odd views on what a mod should be.......maybe he will be a good mod.....although i doubt i'll notice him.....i hardly did in the past 9 months, i don't see why that should change.....

adidasss · 01-26-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

But really, does this affect our boards that much? No not really. The intelligent music discussion is still going to be there (probably getting ignored

). You have to realize that most of the drama happens in the Lounge, and really that's never been that detremental to the site.

pshhhh.....i'm having fun......

hahaha....such a good point.....

hookers with machineguns · 01-26-2006, 01:39 PM

Adidass, not all members receive the respect they deserve. In fact, I'm sure everyone feels like they aren't getting enough.

I consider All Nite to be one of the smartest guys on here. His post history says it all. His quiet approach makes each one of his posts much more powerful than the last.

adidasss · 01-26-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

Adidass, not all members receive the respect they deserve. In fact, I'm sure everyone feels like they aren't getting enough.

I consider All Nite to be one of the smartest guys on here. His post history says it all. His quiet approach makes each one of his posts much more powerful than the last.

yeah yeah, i know....quit being so damn mature about all of this....you're ruining the fun......

01-26-2006, 01:31 PM	#45 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	Maybe so, but you still dump a lion in a crowd of buffalo, and buffalo don't like potential agressors. You can only pick up so much from tips, it's better to start off in the shallow end and break yourself in rather than going straight for the diving board. __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

01-26-2006, 01:25 PM	#42 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	I personally think there is a conflict of interest whenever you make a popular member into a moderator. But, in most cases, it turns out fine. I think as long as you have one mod that knows a thing or two about music, the rest will take care of the spam. When I was mod, I never had to go to the Lounge. Why? Because the rest of the mods were already there. I think the admin is out of touch with the boards, but that's all I'm going to say on that. But really, does this affect our boards that much? No not really. The intelligent music discussion is still going to be there (probably getting ignored ). You have to realize that most of the drama happens in the Lounge, and really that's never been that detremental to the site.

01-26-2006, 01:33 PM	#46 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	Also, I don't think this site really needs more than 5 super mods and 2 admins. It brings down the prestige of the title, especially when it is being passed around generously. Most of the current mods are already very active and doing a good job cleaning up spam. The idea of local mods is wonderful. It recognizes good posters and would have been a good alternative for All Nite Dinah's case, instead of abruptly ending his modship. There was one point when the only active mods were me, fenix, and alejo. Only 3 super mods. But, honestly, while everyone was complaining, I thought we were taking care of things very well . So quality over quantity.

01-26-2006, 01:39 PM	#49 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	Adidass, not all members receive the respect they deserve. In fact, I'm sure everyone feels like they aren't getting enough. I consider All Nite to be one of the smartest guys on here. His post history says it all. His quiet approach makes each one of his posts much more powerful than the last.