Not as cool. Plus, I hate Pugs. I think they look like what an asshole would look like if it had a dog's mouth coming out of it.

I love you.

Dirty says the mods are flat out lying. The only warning was reversed a day later. Dirty will not respond anymore to this thread til hes unbanned, and then he will reveal the real truth. See you in 28.


I am simply the messanger, I do not really give a shit about any of this. I have no idea why he asked me to post this considering how wonderful things turned out last time I posted on behalf of someone who was banned but he did and I think we should all just drop the subject.

A bunch of people on both sides seem to have taken up this self riteous attitude...they think they're always right. I don't care for it at all. I know I've acted like a chode at times and I realize that I can be a huge bitch, but so can the rest of you. This entire ordeal makes me feel like a little kid being sent to the principal's office again.

I banned him for having the name Dirty.
Now that I'm drunk again, I seem to remember.

There. Settled.
Now let's all go fuck ourselves.

No one gives a shit.

@ Paloma:

Haha I love that vid.

I got bite marks on my fingers the last time I tried to do that.

Are you too drunk to quote a post?

Too lazy, mostly.
SOMEBODY posted one in between...

There's so much **** I want to say in this thread tbh

Okay.

Is it any consolation that I don't care?

You should clean your PM box, bro.

If you didn't, I think you'd leave him to his own devices.

Maybe if you'd stop sending me love letters I wouldn't have to.

Hey guys can yall get me a moderator job?

My ass is pretty big. Do you think you can kiss all of it?

He missed his chance to kiss Vanilla's ass. :laughing:

I meant is it any consolation that I don't care that he called me an anus, a rectum, and a retard?

Trust you to jump on the bandwagon. We all know what you did to boobs.

Some people really need to grow up, get the **** over it.

How about putting your wasted breath into some music threads instead of adding to unnecessary drama.

Dirty was banned, he deserved it, and that's final. If you don't like it, call someone who cares.

That still wouldn't have made it okay to not punish him for it. Ultimately, it wouldn't have mattered who he said that to, there would still be consequences.

Why certainly man...theres plenty of folks I could learn from around he............Nah nevermind.

Oooh, that stings. I don't give a shit about your opinion of me or anybody else's. I may be a loose cannon but I'm not malicious. You and the rest of "we all" are wrong.

I hardly thought relaying a couple messages back and fourth and adding a disclaimer would make much of a difference in this absolute mind**** but I'm super duper frickin' sorry if you thought that I meant it that way.

Or whatever.

This isn't going anywhere. I'm going to shut up but this is going to keep going. (Close the thread and it will still keep going elsewhere.)

Thank god.

I think everyone's reaching for insults right now. Suffice it to say that no more information is going to come up on the matter, at least for 28 days and 11 hours. Unless there are any fresh criticisms to make, I can't think of anything left to discuss.

We're gonna get raptured y'all! 28 DAYS. WE
WILL
KNOW
THE
REAL TRUTH

I'm scared...I might have to find shelter during that time of DOOM.

Or you can just pull a SATCHMO and give him a year ban 5 minutes after he returns, for no apparent reason, that will make a point. GuitarBizarre will gladly support you.

I'm also glad to see the Mods have extended their area of responsibility and enforcement to now serve more of the World Wide Web, watch out world.

Why is it that no one has mentioned how ridiculous oojay's infraction a few pages back is? Seriously, come on Duga, you're a grown ass man. Act like it.

It's also funny that the mods scoff at anyone who dares to offer an opinion on the matter that "we don't have all the facts", the same facts you refuse to disclose in this very case. So how we, in your eyes, to form an opinion on the issue? Oh, that's right, you won't have your actions be held accountable to the public. What a great form of leadership we have made for ourselves MusicBanter.

This whole situation is the equivalent of people getting fired from their jobs for posting on Facebook. People sticking their nose where it doesn't belong and over-reaching their boundaries.

But of course, my opinion doesn't count, because I don't have all the facts...

I don't see how much more cut-and-dry we can make it than "He was saying extremely nasty things about someone".

It's because we're all evil and want to revoke everyone's freedom.

Yes, it makes sense if you don't think about it.

That may not be the purpose of your actions, but it will inevitably resemble the reult.

I don't understand what you're missing here, but I expect no amount of expounding will satisfy your distaste for our decision.

Condescension is not a good look for you. I would tell you how I really feel, but since Duga is handing out infractions for opinionated posts now, I'll refrain. Have a nice day.

How's the weather up there by the way?

This parental, "because I said so" attitude that you seem to be taking on the issue should not be confused with any sort of real explanation.

If you can't explain why you did something, you probably shouldn't have done it in the first place.

I can't decide if you mods take this approach because you "want to protect members privacy", or because everyone knowing would prove that the action was taken in haste and without proper procedure.

We actually don't have to justify decisions we make as mods.

The weathers fantastic, we have an ash plume over our country.

I don't see the need to repeat the exact phrases used, cause more drama, and make a further spectacle out of the user that was victimized in the speech. I understand how this will satisfy curiosity, but I do not see it having any other positive impact.

The reality of this particular situation is that Dirty is a person known for his polarizing behaviour who has received previous warnings and consequences for his actions. He continued this behaviour, to an extent where it was bordering on harassment of another user. The last particular instance required intervention.

That's the long and short of it, without resorting to posting word for word the gratuitous insults that were used in the cited conversation.

Generally speaking, it seems that if we give an inch, people will take a mile. Previously, it was stressed that all anyone wanted to know was length of ban and simple reason for it. Now we've been providing this information, yet it fails to satisfy. Honestly, the curiosity will only be fulfilled if you were witness to the incident while it took place, and short of that, nobody will feel comfortable or as if they understand everything that occurred.

I'm not sure what you consider "proper procedure". We haven't hidden our method from anyone. We observe a number of incidents, and when they come to a peak, we come to a majority consensus and decide on an action to counter the offending behaviour. If you think there is a more professional way to handle things, I at least, am listening to the suggestion.

Oh really? Never heard that one before. I offer a quote, says it better than I can.

"Knowledge is power. Information is power. The secreting or hoarding of knowledge or information may be an act of tyranny camouflaged as humility."
- Robin Morgan

That's how I feel about it.


Wow, OK. Point taken.

Yeah I'm pretty fresh. I want all the power and you CANT HAVE IT! :D

This thread is quite possibly the most idiotic thing I've ever seen...

Now we're getting somewhere. Thank you for a seemingly sincere and concerted effort. It doesn't paint a vivid picture, but it's a good start by MB standards.

Note I'm not saying the mods actions were/are unjust or unfair in this case, I would just like the opputunity to arrive at that opinion on my own, rather than having it handed to me.

Here's where we disagree, I don't believe in the hiding of information. We are not dogs, we shouldn't be expected to be happy with our dog treats while we watch you eat a steak (pardon the stupid analogy). Holding back facts and essentially sitting on pertinent inforamtion is obviously going to breed a certain level on distrust between mods and regular members. When you make it obvious that you're hiding certain facts, why wouldn't we assume you're hiding others as well?

Okay so "proper procedure" may have been a little vague, but as Urban said earlier, I would consider banning people based on the current rules in place rather than making up new rules to accomidate old bannings to be a good start.