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FRED HALE SR. 06-13-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069673)
So your justification for belittling me is based upon how many posts I made in this thread, while simultaneously pointing out the you have made more irrelevant posts than I have? Well played.

:laughing: I had to laugh.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 06-13-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1069659)
it amazes me. 6 years ago we banned people for next to no reason whatsoever. there were no infractions, PMed warnings from mods, no mod thread where the moderators painfully deliberated whether or not a member deserved a ban, or a rigid set of criteria to determine what constituted a ban worthy offense. we just did it, and guess what? none of the members complained. people just went about their business and talked about music... about MUSIC. is that not a revolutionary concept.

I will tell you that the mods on third forum painstakingly deliberate over whether or both to ban someone. it's almost comical, yet any time anyone gets banned there's a guaranteed to be a protest.

we're not power hungry totalitarians. this is a music forum. whoever goes megalomaniacal over being a moderator on a music forum needs to get a little more fresh air, and I guarantee you none of us are like that, except me, maybe.

moral of the story: this isn't kindergarten where our job is to guide and mold you into the fine outstanding citizens in hopes that one day you'll fill us with a sense of pride over what a well-mannered homo sapien you are. No, our job is to moderate a music forum, which includes banning people who have clearly shown that they don't know how to play nicely with others, which, by the way, is something everyone should have learned in kindergarten.

I have no sympathy for Dirty, and I would gladly ban him again, if he acts the same way when and if he comes back.

qft. This is the voice of logic speaking.

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 01:50 PM

I'm going to take a little time out from posting in this this love-fest. Why? Because stupid people piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I sometimes tell people off (which is frowned upon if you're not a mod or a kiss ass to a mod). Have a good day guys.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069673)
So your justification for belittling me is based upon how many posts I made in this thread, while simultaneously pointing out the you have made more irrelevant posts than I have? Well played.

I don't think you can really be belittled, given how seriously I already take your clearly monolithic and intellectually staggering input into this thread.

Sansa Stark 06-13-2011 02:19 PM

mods are pretty cool guy, eh bans dickheads and doesn't afraid of anything

Bloozcrooz 06-13-2011 02:23 PM

Yeah!!!!! Like take yourself serious and stuff, god guys

FETCHER. 06-13-2011 02:25 PM

In the 1 year 10months I have been a regular member of this forum, the strongest thing I've learned about the majority of the people who post here is that the forum is full to the gunnels of bitchy, moaning faced bastards. Get a fucking life already. A troll got banned, I'm sure you could stir up some irl drama instead.

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1068610)
I completely agree with you. You have to understand, each mod has a different idea of what is appropriate to tell and what isn't. A certain level of discretion is preferred just because it might actually be embarrassing to the person who was banned. I'm not saying this is the case with Dirty, but we want to at least try to be consistent. Obviously, that is harder than it sounds.



I think that's what we were going for initially. I even think this would have worked if it wasn't someone with a reputation like Dirty. Oh well, it happened.

Please, if someones biggest problem in life is the embarrassment of getting infracted/banned on a forum then I have a sentence of advice. Get out of the fucking house, mate.

Queen Boo 06-13-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069621)
What is the difference? What you just said about Vanilla is more insulting than what I said to get an infraction. Will you get one? No. Did I? Yes. That's the difference.

Calling someone a dumb whore is different from criticizing their moderating abilities.

djchameleon 06-13-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069686)
I'm going to take a little time out from posting in this this love-fest. Why? Because stupid people piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I sometimes tell people off (which is frowned upon if you're not a mod or a kiss ass to a mod). Have a good day guys.

It took you far too long to realize this

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon
Dear oojay,

You have received an infraction at Music Banter.

Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)
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You have been issued an infraction for calling other posters "stupid" in this post. You know personal attacks and insults are against the rules here, please refrain from this kind of behavior in the future.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.musicbanter.com/announcem...ml#post1069686
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I'm going to take a little time out from posting in this this love-fest. Why? Because stupid people piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I sometimes tell people off (which is frowned upon if you're not a mod or a kiss ass to a mod). Have a good day guys.
All the best,
Music Banter

You guys are un-f*cking-believable.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069732)
You guys are un-f*cking-believable.


Freebase Dali 06-13-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069732)
You guys are un-f*cking-believable.

I'm going to personally set out to be the fairest moderator of all time. From this point forth, ANYTHING that could even SLIGHTLY be considered insulting to ANYONE on the forum, will first get a 9-point infraction that will last an entire month... then their next infraction will be 1 point, and will result in a month long ban.

This is not retroactive.
Happy?

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 03:08 PM

How many infraction points before I get a prize. I've already got 4, 2 of which never expire.

Freebase Dali 06-13-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069735)
How many infraction points before I get a prize. I've already got 4, 2 of which never expire.

Well in your case, I'll have to adjust the numbers.

Bloozcrooz 06-13-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069732)
You guys are un-f*cking-believable.

Wow...I think its fair to say you've pissed them off dude?

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1069737)
Wow...I think its fair to say you've pissed them off dude?

Infractions used to be gauged as a percentage, not points. I guess 4 points could be equated to 40%. 40% is an F, so they fail. I'm used to getting A+'s.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069739)
Infractions used to be gauged as a percentage, not points. I guess 4 points could be equated to 40%. 40% is an F, so they fail. I'm used to getting A+'s.

On a ten point scale, I'm sure.

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1069749)
On a ten point scale, I'm sure.

(4 / X) = 40% =0.4
(0.4 * X) = 4
X = (4 / 0.4) = 10!

Nice skillz!

Janszoon 06-13-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069732)
You guys are un-f*cking-believable.

I thought you were leaving the thread.

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1069773)
I thought you were leaving the thread.

And I thought you weren't handing out bullish*t infractions. You learn something new everyday. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

Burning Down 06-13-2011 04:01 PM

This thread seriously went to shit in the few hours since I last logged in here.

Janszoon 06-13-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069778)
And I thought you weren't handing out bullish*t infractions. You learn something new everyday. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

I'm not handing out bullshit infractions. I gave you an infraction for breaking a rule that I'm sure you're well aware of since, as you're keen on pointing out, you've been "a member longer than most" and you've been infracted several times for breaking the same rule repeatedly over the years.

Dr_Rez 06-13-2011 04:43 PM

Janszoon wtf is that thing in your avatar.? Is it a male or female? It looks like am muffin or something.mmm

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1069809)
I'm not handing out bullshit infractions. I gave you an infraction for breaking a rule that I'm sure you're well aware of since, as you're keen on pointing out, you've been "a member longer than most" and you've been infracted several times for breaking the same rule repeatedly over the years.

For someone who is so dedicated to maintaining member privacy, you sure do like to pop off at the jaw about my personal history, don't you?

Dr_Rez 06-13-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069825)
For someone who is so dedicated to maintaining member privacy, you sure do like to pop off at the jaw about my personal history, don't you?

oojay i am just a third party but take this to pm or something man, i dont want to see you get banned, your a good poster.

Scarlett O'Hara 06-13-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069621)
What is the difference? What you just said about Vanilla is more insulting than what I said to get an infraction. Will you get one? No. Did I? Yes. That's the difference.

He won't get one because he was objectively telling me my bitchiness is over the top, I actually admit on here I'm a bitch all the time. I really appreciated that feedback from him. Sometimes I get carried away. :)

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1069624)
Honestly, it's like teaching a man with no legs to do the Can-Can.

I give up.

:laughing:

Dr_Rez 06-13-2011 04:52 PM

Sorry what did you say Vanilla YOUR AVATAR WAS GIVING ME A SEIZURE.

duga 06-13-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1069835)
oojay i am just a third party but take this to pm or something man, i dont want to see you get banned, your a good poster.

Agreed.

Like I said, oojay, I had nothing against you. You are quickly starting to come off as a drama queen, though. What exactly are you trying to accomplish by keeping this going?

Scarlett O'Hara 06-13-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 1069837)
Sorry what did you say Vanilla YOUR AVATAR WAS GIVING ME A SEIZURE.

:laughing:

The longer it annoys people, the longer it stays. There's a thread dedicated to my avatar. Sad times.

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1069838)
Agreed.

Like I said, oojay, I had nothing against you. You are quickly starting to come off as a drama queen, though. What exactly are you trying to accomplish by keeping this going?

You seem to picture me as having some master scheme with an end result in mind. I just don't take sh*t from people when I don't deserve it. And I try to make sure that other people don't have to either. I'm not going to be pushed around or have my opinions oppressed when I am just as valid of a member as anyone else. I don't back down from am argument when I am right. I use facts and knowledge as a basis for my arguments. If some mods want to get their rocks off by banning or infracting me, then go for it.

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duga 06-13-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069846)
You seem to picture me as having some master scheme with an end result in mind. I just don't take sh*t from people when I don't deserve it. And I try to make sure that other people don't have to either. I'm not going to be pushed around or have my opinions oppressed when I am just as valid of a member as anyone else. I don't back down from am argument when I am right. I use facts and knowledge as a basis for my arguments. If some mods want to get their rocks off by banning or infracting me, then go for it.

You are letting your emotions guide your argument and its resulting in something that is completely flawed. Your opinion is you didn't deserve to be infracted. My opinion is that you did along with several others. This has absolutely nothing to do with who is right or wrong. I think that is something you should think about. In fact, that is something everyone who has been posting in here should think about. When we infract or ban regular members, there is no definite right or wrong. There is only the general opinion of the mods and when the majority rules in one way, we go with it. The only time it is clear cut at all is when we deal with spammers and trolls who have small stints of about a week.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069846)
You seem to picture me as having some master scheme with an end result in mind. I just don't take sh*t from people when I don't deserve it. And I try to make sure that other people don't have to either. I'm not going to be pushed around or have my opinions oppressed when I am just as valid of a member as anyone else. I don't back down from am argument when I am right. I use facts and knowledge as a basis for my arguments. If some mods want to get their rocks off by banning or infracting me, then go for it.

So going off on a complete tangent trying to make out like I'm only on MB to post in this thread and acting as if why I'm here is relevant to whether what I'm saying is the truth or not, was in some way based on "Facts and knowledge"? I once again point the thread to the ad hominem fallacy. That there is a fact you need to be aware of.

[MERIT] 06-13-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1069877)
So going off on a complete tangent trying to make out like I'm only on MB to post in this thread and acting as if why I'm here is relevant to whether what I'm saying is the truth or not, was in some way based on "Facts and knowledge"? I once again point the thread to the ad hominem fallacy. That there is a fact you need to be aware of.

What? Nobody was even talking to you homie. Paranoid much?

And we get it, you know the term "ad hominem." You don't have to use it in every post.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069884)
What? Nobody was even talking to you homie. Paranoid much?

And we get it, you know the term "ad hominem." You don't have to use it in every post.

Ironically enough, ad hominem is exactly what the entirety of that post was, meaning your argument is fallacious.

1 - Whether someone was talking to me directly does not preclude me from voicing an opinion or from making reference to a past action of your own that contradicts the assertion you were making regarding the nature of your arguments and their supposed roots in fact and knowledge.

2 - I've used it in 3 posts. Each time it was logically relevant. Your refusal to address the point only ensures I will continue to press you on the point until you admit your error and subsequently modify your statements or cease to argue the point.

Scarlett O'Hara 06-13-2011 05:39 PM

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[MERIT] 06-13-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1069887)
Ironically enough, ad hominem is exactly what the entirety of that post was, meaning your argument is fallacious.

1 - Whether someone was talking to me directly does not preclude me from voicing an opinion or from making reference to a past action of your own that contradicts the assertion you were making regarding the nature of your arguments and their supposed roots in fact and knowledge.

2 - I've used it in 3 posts. Each time it was logically relevant. Your refusal to address the point only ensures I will continue to press you on the point until you admit your error and subsequently modify your statements or cease to argue the point.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I think you get my point. No one is against you because that would require actually giving you the time of day. Stop being paranoid. Talking about using facts and knowledge in my arguments in no way implies that others don't do so as well. It was simply a declarative statement. STOP BEING PARANOID.

GuitarBizarre 06-13-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1069894)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I think you get my point. No one is against you because that would require actually giving you the time of day. Stop being paranoid. Talking about using facts and knowledge in my arguments in no way implies that others don't do so as well. It was simply a declarative statement. STOP BEING PARANOID.

This entire statement is just an insult, not an argument. Are you actually going to use any logic in your arguments, or do facts and logic mean something diffferent to you than they do to me?

Burning Down 06-13-2011 05:49 PM

Take it to PM please, GB and oojay.

NSW 06-13-2011 05:49 PM

Could y'all just quit bickering already? I'm not going to ban anyone (despite what anyone thinks about the mods being ban happy). I'm just tired and bored of reading you people go back and forth.

Now...lets go back to talking about people being banned. Or not. It would be great if this thread got no action whatsoever.


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