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right-track 03-08-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1015348)
I know that wouldn't happen. But that's what the big3 is suggesting.

A strategical temp banning of two particular members (you're not one of them James) for the good of the site, would cause enough ripples to sort out most of the perceived problems with MB at the moment.

Janszoon 03-08-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1015354)
No, he got a few infractions and things, felt like everyone was taking it too seriously. He posts on RYM now, I spoke to him. He says he'll come back in 3 months and see if it's changed but if not he'll just stay away.

Oh, well I'm sorry to hear that. He definitely brought a lot to the table here. Requesting to be banned seems like an odd choice if that's the case, you'd think he'd just stop coming here if he didn't like it.

James 03-08-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1015367)
Oh, well I'm sorry to hear that. He definitely brought a lot to the table here. Requesting to be banned seems like an odd choice if that's the case, you'd think he'd just stop coming here if he didn't like it.

It is strange. I think he lacks self control. Or maybe he wanted attention.

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1015358)
A strategical temp banning of two particular members (you're not one of them James) for the good of the site, would cause enough ripples to sort out most of the perceived problems with MB at the moment.

Tumor is one right? Who else?

RVCA 03-08-2011 03:38 PM

I voted for booboo's return because, frankly, I never use the shoutbox. The fact that he "flames" people in the shoutbox is irrelevant to me. He was an entertaining and knowledgeable poster.

Queen Boo 03-08-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1015374)

Tumor is one right? Who else?

If I am one then its either Dirty or Paloma (because of the shoutbox) or GuitarBizarre (for us yapping at each other in this clusterfuck of a thread).

Maybe musicbanter could use a little chemo.

ThePhanastasio 03-08-2011 03:40 PM

Yeah, I seldom venture into the shoutbox either. I voted for his return because a lot of the posts I've seen of his in threads I've read have been really well thought out. As for him needing to get a life? Probably so.

But the fact that this thread already has 9 pages shows that he was, erm, polarizing to say the least. So maybe it's for the best that the ban stays on.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 03-08-2011 03:41 PM

Can you unban him from particular portions of the site? From my gathering he had a lot of musical insight but didn't play nice. Theoretically, maybe entice him with limited postings in forums where he can be productive, and keep him out of the shoutbox/lounge. At least, until his big ban is over.

Just a theory gathered from what little I know. I don't quite understand the "If he causes trouble we ban you too" idea. I'm hoping that's sarcasm, cause it befuddles me.

Honestly, couldn't care either way since he hasn't been around most of me being here. Just a thought analyzing the back and forth.

s_k 03-08-2011 03:42 PM

Hmm... If he really doesn't have a life.
I mean, doesn't it seem... mean... to take away his internetlife, then?
I dunno. I could very well be wrong, don't know the guy.
But reading in this topic he seems like a bit of a poor bastard that has nowhere to go.

James 03-08-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah (Post 1015387)
Can you unban him from particular portions of the site? From my gathering he had a lot of musical insight but didn't play nice. Theoretically, maybe entice him with limited postings in forums where he can be productive, and keep him out of the shoutbox/lounge. At least, until his big ban is over.

.

That's what i said. If he posts in the sb or the lounge just permaban him immediatly.

RVCA 03-08-2011 03:46 PM

Excuse me but the "boo boo has no life" thing is really irksome. Who are YOU to judge what a "life" is? Who's to say that spending large amounts of time discussing music on the internet doesn't constitute having a "life"?

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1015338)
I don't care enough about boobs to get banned for him but if the mods are honestly willing to ban me just because I have an opinion I will be out of here in a shot.

Thats not what was suggested nor was it brought up as an option.

Big3 suggested that if people cared enough about boobs to lobby for his return, then those people should put their accounts where their mouths are and show that they trust booboo as much as they trust themselves.

I believe he was making the point that it seems most of the people who wish to see boobs back are people who either would have no regular runins with him, would enjoy seeing him behave badly, or who generally behave badly themselves and would like to see someone else take some heat.

By linking your fate to his, you are showing that you genuinely trust him to come back and contribute as a regular member, rather than being someone who simply wishes to stir the pot and let booboo create an inevitable ****storm, then sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

James 03-08-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1015396)
Thats not what was suggested nor was it brought up as an option.

Big3 suggested that if people cared enough about boobs to lobby for his return, then those people should put their accounts where their mouths are and show that they trust booboo as much as they trust themselves.

I believe he was making the point that it seems most of the people who wish to see boobs back are people who either would have no regular runins with him, would enjoy seeing him behave badly, or who generally behave badly themselves and would like to see someone else take some heat.

By linking your fate to his, you are showing that you genuinely trust him to come back and contribute as a regular member, rather than being someone who simply wishes to stir the pot and let booboo create an inevitable ****storm, then sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

I get now that he was being facetious, I thought he was serious when I made the post.

s_k 03-08-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1015395)
Excuse me but the "boo boo has no life" thing is really irksome. Who are YOU to judge what a "life" is? Who's to say that spending large amounts of time discussing music on the internet doesn't constitute having a "life"?

Are you tokking to me?
I don't have a clue whether the guy has a life. I don't know him, he was banned before I got here.
I would never say that someone 'hasn't got a life'. I'm just copying.
But reading this gives me the idea that BooBoo doesn't have much social skills and perhaps should be given some extra... well... I dunno, space to make mistakes or something?
I'm just thinking out loud here, I don't know if what I say is any good.
I just try to figure out how stuff went and what BooBoo is like.

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1015398)
I get now that he was being facetious, I thought he was serious when I made the post.

Thats how I would have taken it even if he had been serious, frankly. Its a good solution. At the very least it would have put a lot of pressure on boo boo to not be a ****hole, since otherwise he'd have pissed off people other than "The man", and wouldn't be able to justify any irrational feelings of persecution if he got banned again.

RVCA 03-08-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1015399)
Are you tokking to me?
I don't have a clue whether the guy has a life. I don't know him, he was banned before I got here.
I would never say that someone 'hasn't got a life'. I'm just copying.
But reading this gives me the idea that BooBoo doesn't have much social skills and perhaps should be given some extra... well... I dunno, space to make mistakes or something?
I'm just thinking out loud here, I don't know if what I say is any good.
I just try to figure out how stuff went and what BooBoo is like.

I'm talking to everyone. This forum seems to perpetuate an image of Boo Boo as this person who never does anything but troll the internet. 1) That image may or may not be accurate, it's not really possible to know and 2) If that image IS accurate, who are you to judge him for it? It just gives off this internet elitism vibe that I find really annoying

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1015399)
Are you tokking to me?
I don't have a clue whether the guy has a life. I don't know him, he was banned before I got here.
I would never say that someone 'hasn't got a life'. I'm just copying.
But reading this gives me the idea that BooBoo doesn't have much social skills and perhaps should be given some extra... well... I dunno, space to make mistakes or something?
I'm just thinking out loud here, I don't know if what I say is any good.
I just try to figure out how stuff went and what BooBoo is like.

Boo boo basically had two modes. Discussions about music where his opinion was always right, and arguments about how his tastes in women were underrepresented in the mainstream. He used to bring up the fact he liked bald chicks literally every single time a discussion started about attractive women of any kind. After a while it became predictable, then annoying, then it kind of got to levels of "Jesus shut the **** up we get it you like bald chicks, go find some relevant porn and leave us alone to like what we like"

The Fascinating Turnip 03-08-2011 03:54 PM

Voted no because I'm not a fan of the ridiculously heated arguments that tend to pop up in the lounge due to him. If you really want to "spice things up", spice them up yourself in a way that isn't a pain in the arse for everyone.

In any case, it's sad that an argument can't be had without resorting to mentions of banning and angry imprecations, it's just the sort of thing boo boo did.

Janszoon 03-08-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unchained Ballad (Post 1015406)
Voted no because I'm not a fan of the ridiculously heated arguments that tend to pop up in the lounge due to him. If you really want to "spice things up", spice them up yourself in a way that isn't a pain in the arse for everyone.

In any case, it's sad that an argument can't be had without resorting to mentions of banning and angry imprecations, it's just the sort of thing boo boo did.

Hey, I just learned a new word! :)

right-track 03-08-2011 03:56 PM

Discussing boo boo to this degree in his absence is unfair.
Discussing whether or not he should return early was already decided when he was banned.
Close thread?

Queen Boo 03-08-2011 03:57 PM

puddi puddi?

right-track 03-08-2011 03:57 PM

^ And ban this individual!

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1015408)
Hey, I just learned a new word! :)

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but in case you are, that is actually a real word :P

right-track 03-08-2011 03:59 PM

^And this one.

The Fascinating Turnip 03-08-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1015408)
Hey, I just learned a new word! :)

Hehe, always trust me to be a pompous arse :)

s_k 03-08-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1015405)
Boo boo basically had two modes. Discussions about music where his opinion was always right, and arguments about how his tastes in women were underrepresented in the mainstream. He used to bring up the fact he liked bald chicks literally every single time a discussion started about attractive women of any kind. After a while it became predictable, then annoying, then it kind of got to levels of "Jesus shut the **** up we get it you like bald chicks, go find some relevant porn and leave us alone to like what we like"

So, let's say something is wrong with the guy and it is out of his control.
Again: I do NOT know what I'm talking about, I'm just thinking out loud again.
Say there's something wrong with the guy, he can't help it, isn't it possible for the forum to adapt to booboo? Ignore his probably sometimes annoying behaviour? I dunno man. I always feel bad when someone who probably can't help himself gets the beating. I can identify with people like that quite often.
But again, maybe I'm wrong :)

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1015418)
So, let's say something is wrong with the guy and it is out of his control.
Again: I do NOT know what I'm talking about, I'm just thinking out loud again.
Say there's something wrong with the guy, he can't help it, isn't it possible for the forum to adapt to booboo? Ignore his probably sometimes annoying behaviour? I dunno man. I always feel bad when someone who probably can't help himself gets the beating. I can identify with people like that quite often.
But again, maybe I'm wrong :)

Based on the history of the situation, I'm going to say no, the forum can't adapt. The problem lay specifically at that point, since he would be reasonable by most definitions for a while then start a ****storm, then repeat. There didn't seem to be any reasonable pattern to when or what would piss him off, so adjusting attitudes in the same way as saying "That guy gets heated about X" didn't really apply.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-08-2011 04:06 PM

Right. I voted no. I don't believe that he should be reinstated early because personally I don't want to be constantly cleaning after him. Look at how ridiculous some members have acted in this thread. I personally really like the guy but considering his past behaviour I agree with right_track that he will appreciate the place more if he has the entire ban time.

Let's face it. None of the mods have voted yes, so the chances of his ban being lifted are very slim.

Janszoon 03-08-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1015414)
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but in case you are, that is actually a real word :P

I wasn't being sarcastic. I literally meant that I just learned a new word.

right-track 03-08-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1015425)
Right. I voted no. I don't believe that he should be reinstated early because personally I don't want to be constantly cleaning after him. Look at how ridiculous some members have acted in this thread. I personally really like the guy but considering his past behaviour I agree with right_track that he will appreciate the place more if he has the entire ban time.

Let's face it. None of the mods have voted yes, so the chances of his ban being lifted are very slim.

I like him too, but I seriously doubt he'll be able to change when he returns.

Dr.Seussicide 03-08-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1015426)
I wasn't being sarcastic. I literally meant that I just learned a new word.

Me too though :thumb:

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1015426)
I wasn't being sarcastic. I literally meant that I just learned a new word.

Fair enough. Its a good word, I wish I heard it used more often.

Sansa Stark 03-08-2011 04:14 PM

Voted No

don't think he's quite ready yet

s_k 03-08-2011 04:17 PM

I am very curious what he will be like when he gets back.

Dirty 03-08-2011 04:19 PM

I didn't plan on posting here for awhile but I lurked and saw this thread. I don't even know boo boo cause he was banned before I joined. But whenever he does come back, he basically has no chance of staying here. He is going to be under such a microscope and any little thing he does is gonna be overblown and bans are gonna be called for immediately. I don't know why he would even bother coming back honestly but that's obviously his choice. He's gonna basically have to morph into s_k and be super smiley to survive more than a few weeks once he's back which I doubt is gonna happen.

I voted to have him back. Cause I take this forum far less seriously than pretty much everyone. And I don't care if he says controversial things or starts discussions that turn into arguments. It's the internet and I don't get riled up over stuff like that. And unlike myself he seemed to actually be a pretty huge contributor to some music sections. As for the mods, I doubt it would cause them much trouble to have boo boo back. Delete a few posts, oh my! But it's pretty clear they don't want him back anyways. A one year ban is stupid in my opinion anyways, and excessive, but I wasn't around for all off boo boos shenanigans so maybe it's more deserved than i think. I'd go back and search his post history but i dont really care enough to do that. Basically if he came back I wouldnt see any harm.

s_k 03-08-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1015445)
He's gonna basically have to morph into s_k and be super smiley to survive more than a few weeks once he's back which I doubt is gonna happen.

And he'll have to stop liking bald chicks.
I don't like bald chicks. I don't even like short-haired chicks.

Thanks for passing by btw :D.

Alfred 03-08-2011 04:25 PM

it seems the opposition is composed mostly of mods and former mods... there's something afoot here! :D

Buzzov*en 03-08-2011 04:26 PM

I'm voting yes even though I was not here for him being here. They allow some one like hip hop bunny hop to stay around I see no reason to not allow this dude back. Plus w.e it is the internet stop being so bent out of shape.

GuitarBizarre 03-08-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1015450)
it seems the opposition is composed mostly of mods and former mods... there's something afoot here! :D

A group of people with more information about boo boo's previous infractions and bannings than the rest of the forum, is upholding a decision made by people with more information about boo boo's previous infractions and bannings than the rest of the forum?

I think whats afoot is inside knowledge.

Edit: Post Roland TR-808!

Queen Boo 03-08-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1015450)
it seems the opposition is composed mostly of mods and former mods... there's something afoot here! :D

yeah, laziness.
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Mojo 03-08-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1015445)
I didn't plan on posting here for awhile but I lurked and saw this thread. I don't even know boo boo cause he was banned before I joined. But whenever he does come back, he basically has no chance of staying here. He is going to be under such a microscope and any little thing he does is gonna be overblown and bans are gonna be called for immediately. I don't know why he would even bother coming back honestly but that's obviously his choice. He's gonna basically have to morph into s_k and be super smiley to survive more than a few weeks once he's back which I doubt is gonna happen.

I voted to have him back. Cause I take this forum far less seriously than pretty much everyone. And I don't care if he says controversial things or starts discussions that turn into arguments. It's the internet and I don't get riled up over stuff like that. And unlike myself he seemed to actually be a pretty huge contributor to some music sections. As for the mods, I doubt it would cause them much trouble to have boo boo back. Delete a few posts, oh my! But it's pretty clear they don't want him back anyways. A one year ban is stupid in my opinion anyways, and excessive, but I wasn't around for all off boo boos shenanigans so maybe it's more deserved than i think. I'd go back and search his post history but i dont really care enough to do that. Basically if he came back I wouldnt see any harm.

He would be under a microscope.

His actions would not be blown out of proportion. He really does create his own downfall.

Boo boo banned about 50% of the member list when he was a mod here, leaving everyone else to have to undertake the task of righting his wrongs. It isn't just a case of having to "ban a few posts" of his, he can't help but self-destruct here, and thats why he should serve his year ban and be thankfull it was only a year. It very nearly wasn't.


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