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1 - Has repeatedly caused problems for the mods 2 - Has already been given more chances to change his ways than any other member in the history of musicbanter. 3 - Was informed ahead of being banned this time that his behaviour was no longer going to be let off with a small ban or infraction, and still proceeded to cause problems despite the proverbial sword of damocles hanging over his head. 4 - The only people petitioning for his return, are the people who have the least experience with him. The only pro I can see is that he occasionally talks about stuff while just believing he's better than you, rather than vocalising that belief and bashing you over the head with it like he does the majority of the time. |
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Boo Boo is often the source of heavy debate, and when he doesn't resort to insults, he brings much life and intrigue to the topic.
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I like how a lot of people stopped posting here when all the drama disappeared.
I can't add anything substantial considering I know very little about him. I guess he would contribute more to the Progressive Rock forums, which would be nice for a change. I am also amazed at the amount of elitism I have seen on this thread. |
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Pros: - Initiates interesting debates - Adds some life to the forum. |
Hell no. I can't tolerate someone who it is only possible to have a civil discussion with if you're in agreement on something.
Con: On countless occasions he has resorted to personal attacks just because someone has a differing opinion from him. |
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Dirty, you have no idea what boo boo is like so stop acting like mods are over-reacting. Considering you haven't even been a member that long.
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I like Boobs and all but yeah....he shouldn't get parole. I voted No!
He's had so many chances in the past and he fucked up every time |
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I'm going to try this once more.
It has been ignored a couple of times now. What is BooBoo CANNOT change because he has a strange/****ed up/difficult/different personality. Then what? |
This one other time boo boo got banned I thought to myself, "Ok...he's coming back. Maybe he will behave. These bans are getting longer and longer. If he screws up again, I will be convinced he really can't control himself and nothing is going to change." I don't have to tell you all what happened.
I'd like to know what people think the mods are actually doing. I'm giving up trying to explain how carefully situations like these are judged. You guys will just have to trust us. |
Haha, trust no one.
What I mean is, what if he can't change himself. Cause I have the feeling he can't, why else would he keep trying, not improving? Permanent ban? No ban at all? I mean, if he's going to be banned for most of every year with threads like this one going on. Well I dunno, seems a bit odd and useless to me. |
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That may sound harsh, but frankly, thats the long and short of it from where I'm standing. Edit: And I've defended the mod team in this thread and others before now, duga. Not all of us are trying to stick it to the man. |
The reason behind boo boo's madness is his incredibly low self esteem. Every comment that disagreed with his views was taken as a personal attack. EVERY time. I can't tell you how many times I've had to calm him down and explain that he just misunderstood what I/someone else was saying. He even got into it with me a couple times, and I pride myself on keeping discussions discussions and not turn them into arguments. I'm sure boo boo WANTS to change. He just can't.
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I mean, I don't know what's wrong with booboo, but judging on the stuff said in this thread, I can't help but thinking that he must have similar problems outside of this forum as well :D. |
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And if the discussion is ongoing, and one of the most active threads on musicbanter today, and is interesting, I hardly think continuing to post in it is "obsessing", more like you're trying to make out I'm more nvested than I am. This whole bull**** was started in the shoutbox, then anteater made this thread and it spiralled. I have an opinion on it so I stated it, and then we have discussion. Ongoing discussion, to which its not unreasonable to expect me to respond. |
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I have a forum of my own as you know. And there's a couple of people like BooBoo there. We eventually had to ban one of them because there was no way the forum could cope with him any longer. Main difference here is that practically everyone agreed about that. I dunno man, call me a hippie good-doer, but if there's any reason to believe that BooBoo is doing the absolute maximum to be a nice person... Wouldn't it be great if we could just accept him here? I know it's a lot of work, but if he's really this socially awkward guy who gets himself into trouble every ****ing time, the best we could do is try and understand that. The more contact he has with people, the more trust he wil gain. Or at least that's how these things usually go. And he probably gets sent away at many places. I don't know, I wouldn't mind investing some extra energy in someone like BooBoo. Ghehe, come to think of it... It would be rather funny if he came back in february and hated me from day one :D. Anyway, I've made my point. I'm going to leave this topic now as I know I shouldn't be here, not knowing the guy But I just have this feeling that, if he really can't help himself, there should be at least one place where he's accepted. Why not here? |
No. As an ex mod I know what crap he put mods through willing to give him a second chance.
In fact he had more chances than any other member on MB to date and still loved to wind people up. BooBoo loves his music. He is knowledgeable and enthusiastic. However that doesn't give you the right to push people to their absolute limits regarding tolerance and he did that time and time again. |
Can I be his parole officer?
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S_k - Because we've already tried a dozen times, and when his year is up we're goin to try for lucky number 13, in the hope that the time away from this place has cleared his head and caused him to gain some social faculty. Even by your arguments stance, the mods here have tried what you're suggesting. To give him another short ban would only undermine the purpose, which is to make him realise that his behaviour has to change. As I noted earlier in the thread, his ban came about partially because he made light of it during the episode leading to his banning. He specifically made mention of how he didnt care about being banned because he'd just come back again and it wouldn't affect him.
The time away has obviously made him start to realise that can't be how it is any more, but is it really any less damaging in the long run if we show boo boo that simply asking nicely can get him out of a punishment he knew was coming and courted anyway? He can come back when his year is up. He has every choice in the world open to him except one, until then, and when he gets to the year, he has every choice including that one. He is not significantly inconvenienced by being denied access to this website until then, and if he is inconvenienced that much then what he needs isn't this forum, its a therapist. It wouldn't be fair on the mod team to expect them to shoulder that burden for him. With any luck his return will mark a new boobs, and even me and even the mods will end up revising our opinions. It'd be best for everyone if that's the case, but (Yet more) leniency won't help a bit towards achieving that. |
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I like boo boo, but his behavior is so consistent. I can read him like a book. He goes a few months being "good" then has his period all over musicbanter and the mods have to clean up the mess. He's been given several chances. I think he should wait this one out. I don't have to clean up the mess but I feel sorry for the mods giving him chance after chance and he basically throws it back in their face...
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I'll go back now and read everyone's opinion. I say: mercy before justice. Also, I just miss Boo Boo being here. If someone wants in and feels he is ready, I feel sad knowing he's still out. The one year expulsion was an arbitrary length of time, anyway; no one knew how long it would take Boo Boo to get to the point of being able to follow the MB rules consistently. Maybe that time length has already been reached. |
I guess I'm musicbanter's boo boo ambassador now.
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truthfully i don't think boo boo was ever all that bad sure he was psychotic but please we all are, i think i few people who hate him just created a "hysteria" of some sort (there's probably a slightly better word to use but i can't think of it right now) on this situation.
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