Unless you're trying to start a mod sh**storm, I'd stop right there.

You can say that all you like but the fact of the matter is MusicBanter is a great forum because the moderation staff and many of the members hold a position counter to yours. Sure, it's just the internet - but it's also a very nice part of the internet. One that isn't overrun with crap and BS. If we laxed up and chalked everything up to, "It's just the internet", MusicBanter wouldn't be MusicBanter.

This is just about the only part of you post that is accurate.

That's because the mods have inside information that the regular members don't have. It's always like this. I'm a mod myself. I've banned people (I only do permanent bans) who really really ****ed up. As in threatening members via the telephone, theft and so on. You still hear, every ****ing time, that you shouldn't have banned them.
Regular members most of the time just don't know the entire story because they never had problems with the banned person.

Exactly. Most members don't see anything that offenders do wrong, because the mods are all over it and it's gone and dealt with before the vast majority can see it. Then when the offender finally pushes it too far and they get banned, it's because the "mods overeacted".

I can't even believe we are still discussing this. Not even Captain Caveman got as many chances from the mods here as Boo did to just stop offending people and pissing people off.

Not trying to start anything. I don't think boo boo would be nearly as big of a headache as some might perceive. It's not even really just about him, it could be any member. They do stuff that's over the line like photoshop a clip art hot dog, then delete their posts. Ban them. Whatever. It's a few extra keystrokes. I just don't see it as this huge thing where the mods would have to do this unbelievable amount of work.
Chalking spamming and stuff to "its just the internet" is not a good idea. As far as arguing or having extreme or controversial opinions, I couldn't really care less. I know mods don't share those thoughts and I don't care. That's just my opinion of internet discussion, arguing, whatever.


Thanks for your opinion bro ;):yeah:

Can I ask why you allowed hip hop bunny hop to stick around after the thread he posted on skrewdriver? Kind of seems ridiculious.

I know, my post was a joke. :p:

Well I'll be interested to see how things plan out once he does return after his year ban. My opinion is that he'll be under an intense microscope and at the first sign of any controversy or slight argument, he'll be booted. I don't think he has much of a chance here, but we'll see. He's gonna have to kiss everyone ass and he doesn't seem like the type of guy willing to do that.

Without wanting to seem like a mod-wannabe, I'm pretty sure your answer is going to be roughly "The mod team takes action as it deems it appropriate at the time, however this thread is not an open invitation to suggest instituting new bans of current members. If a member is breaking the rules, use the report post button rather than bringing it up in public. Its more efficient and causes less problems."

Still I think my explanation is very accurate :D.

There was a thread on the band already that was closed because it became a political flame war. That is what a mod said in the thread I am talking about. Again my question seems pretty fair considering writing up a thread and toasting a white power band while pressing your political views in a music thread and posting a pic that was gore (it was taking down) seems worse then anything boo boo could have done. Yet that member is still here.

Entertainment value

I don't want for this thread to get off-topic and go on to involve other members and other decisions that may or may not have been made, but the thread you are referring to didn't go unnoticed and I wouldn't assume that it has a future just yet.

He won't have to kiss anyones ass, he will just have to stop insulting people and giving mods reasons to ban him. It's easy. 99% of the members manage it just fine.

So wait, being political and posting an inappropriate picture was worse than banning half the active members on the forum, and repeatedly ignoring any and all attempts to get that person to follow the few basic rules musicbanter has?

I can't say in good conscience theres any good reason to keep someone around if what you're saying is true, but their recent post history seems at least somewhat reasonable and normal for a poster here, and my point was more that this is not a thread to discuss issues you have with other posters. No thread, to be blunt, ever will be about discussing whether another member should be banned, and thats not just here but on any forum run even remotely well, you will never see the initial decision on a ban being made in public, because it causes horrible, community fracturing problems if left unchecked. That kind of thing is why the reporting system exists, so that ****storms over another members behaviour don't spill out into the fora at large. This thread is about unbanning someone, lets keep it on topic. I'm sure if you have an issue with why someone hasn't been banned yet, a mod will give you their reasoning in private if its a matter of that amount of importance.

Edit: Or not, but whatever, they've roughly stated what I've stated.

I voted no, for all the reasons that have already been stated. I was also around when he was a mod and went all ape-shit over tiny little things and banned a whole bunch of innocent members. In my opinion, this ban is a much needed wake-up call, though I doubt he's going to interpret it as such. Old habits die hard.

I really think this thread has run it's course.

Well what I brought up has relevance since the person who mad the thread is obviously bashing people who do not agree with him politically or look like him racially. His name is an obvious play on words the only thing missing is jungle in front of the bunny.

Yet he is still here and this dude is not allowed to come back haha. I find that funny.

W.e I gave my reasoning even though I do not know boo boo and was not here for him I doubt anything he did was on the same level as what I brought up.

I do not care if he is banned or not obviously you missed the point. Going to love the ignore option especially in this forum.

Man, I've stuck up for you quite a bit...but I've got to tell you, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I voted no. Many people here like to point out how booboo was once a productive member of the site, involved in the prog section and so forth. Yes, he was. Obviously this changed at some point, because we don't ban people for being productive MB members now do we?

I for one liked booboo alot and thought he was a great contributor and even moderator of this forum at one point. But the amount of trouble he caused and his unwillingness to change, or even compromise, after more chances than any of you realize, means it's not worth lifting the ban early. What would be learned from that?

Sorry boobs. :(

You're assuming because you can't see anything on the forum then nothing is being done.
A mod has already told you that they are keeping an eye on things. That's all you need to be concerned about.

If he's that bad he won't be around for long. If he's ok he'll stick around. The mods aren't stupid, they'll ban him if he needs banning and not before. This doesn't need to be turned into a lynching just because you have a personal issue with him. Report the post (The red triangle at the bottom left of every post is the report button), give your reasons, and leave it at that. Anything further than that is just showing a lack of faith in the moderation to do the job they've been asked to do. It won't help your case against that member.

eh, until someone kindly explains how boo boo would require an unbelievable amount of mod work, i'm pretty ok with my thoughts. doesnt seem like a huge amount of work to me. click a few times, delete a post, ban him, etc. Doesn't seem too tough. Actually, lets just not talk about it or PM me about it if anyone cares enough. Cause mods and others are already calling "OFF TOPIC CLOSE THE THREAD!" and I can see people getting all riled up. :band:

You missed my point as well haha.

Ignored.

Everyone should have a cup of tea like I do.
Think for a bit.
Then return.
Come on people, this is not going to help in any way, is it?

The thread seems to be getting a little off-topic now...

Man this guy is...what? Surely if you're on a board and you're ignoring members one by one every few minutes, you would leave the board in question?

Not a fan of tea. Sorry dude. A drink of some sorts sounds nice though.

...or just ignore members whose posts he doesn't wanna see. :banghead:

You're seriously ignoring someone because they didn't get what you said? Seems a little pathetic.

This.

Thats what he's doing, but considering Urban only said one thing and then got instantly ignored, I think the problem is buzz, not Urban or me. Especially considering I was giving advice that would help him make his point without seeming like a self-entitled *******.

Nope not really. Maybe next time I ignore someone I will word the reason why better though.

One thing is for certain - if Boo Boo was seeking attention, we sure gave it to him. Now, not to be an off-topic Nazi, but I'd like to ask the members to please focus on the purpose of this thread. To discuss the merits of Boo Boo being reinstated into our community. If it continues to derail, get personal, or become yet another "WHY WAS THIS WHEN THIS?!" topic, it'll be closed.

Well you can ignore whoever you want, I don't really need to know why. I just thought that's what you were doing, that's all.

This thread has definitely run it's course. Locked.

Aw :(

Never mind, I reopened it. As long as it stays on topic.

Because he did last time
and the time before that
and the time before that
and the time before that..............

When you've had to sort through 9 or 10 threads, dealt with all the stuff in the shoutbox, then had to go through PMs sent to you because of all of that stuff going on, THEN have to spend time over IMs having him saying it won't happen again and he's sorry and then explaining to him what he's doing wrong & how he should handle himself only for him to do it all over again a week later.

You can now see why every current & ex mod voted no.

Make a list of pros and cons like Conan suggested. It's not that difficult...

Why?
It's all been said before.
Even the poll doesn't hold any influence over a decision that was made almost a year ago by people who knew what they were talking about.
Instead we're getting members who weren't even here at the time bullshitting about whether he deserves to come back, or not. Some of them are even guessing as to what kind of person he is. :confused:
It's just pointless!

I'm interested in seeing the pros and cons.

The sense quotient in this post is off the scale.

Alright, let's get a little project going, eh? Let me make this clear that this chart won't change anything - but perhaps will just give us all a little more clear a perspective.

Boo Boo's Parole

Check the OP for the list.