To be fair, there is a lot of police corruption going on right now over here. It isn't the norm but it certainly isn't rare. The media is highlighting every single instance of police brutality and are ignoring the great things police do but it doesn't mean that the brutality should be taken lightly. A lot of f*cked up sh*t has happened in the last two years.

It's also worth pointing out that there's been a long history of police brutality in this country, it's been highlighted a lot more recently because of the fact that so much more of it is being caught on video.

Ftfy

Well, yeah, that's true also.

It's unlikely to be the case every single time, I'm certain I've been stopped because I look like other people who've been up to no good with no specific, individual suspect in mind but I don't really care. I can understand why in an area where car theft, vandalism, arson etc is rife, committed by young, white males in their teens wearing sports clothing, that someone in the age group and wearing those clothes would be stopped.

I have an issue with the antisocial little shits committing these crimes but not the police for trying to crack down on it.

No it's not harassment.

It's not harassment and I'd need to see stats showing the number of searches and the number of arrests based off of those. If they stop 100 people and take two guns off the streets then that's decent work imo.

Plenty of reasons why people wouldn't cooperate.

You can do both. A camera isn't going to work for every crime. For example if you are trying to crack down on knife crime, if somebody is carrying a knife in their pocket, how is a CCTV camera going to pick that up before they've stabbed somebody?

Stop & search would though :cool:

It's not harassment, we are talking about stopping and searching people.

I accept corruption is wrong. Stopping and searching is fine.

You see, it's actually not fine. 400 years ago when we told your royal family to f*ck off we decided to make up some new rules...

Probable cause must be in place for a stop and search to be "fine". Fact of the matter is a lot of people are being searched with no probable cause and a good number of them have reason to believe it's because of the color of their skin. Racism is a thing and if you think a person who took classes for six months to become a police officer is just going to drop those core racial beliefs just because he has a job to do now, then you're very naive. If probable cause is presented, then yes, stopping and searching is warranted, but this isn't always the case and it's becoming more common that there isn't any cause.

She was eventually banned due to her behaviour, and you can't say she wasn't given enough warnings and chances. You're acting as if we all ganged up on her. We didn't. Although it seems impossible for one person to gang up on a number of others, this is essentially what she did. As soon as you supported, even tacitly, what someone else was saying that was contrary to what she believed or thought, she lumped you in with them as being out to get her. She was basically paranoid, and from my dealings with her, came across as quite nasty and intractable.
I knew you'd bring up Roxy. She wasn't ganged up on; she had a lot going on yet kept posting here in what was perhaps not the best frame of mind, instead of standing back and taking a breath. I love her, but sometimes she needed to really think about what was important and not give people here the kind of responses she was, which didn't help her. Some people were probably unnecessarily mean to her, but then, as someone pointed out, we're all ****s here anyway.
I'm sorry, but this is the worst bull**** I have ever read from you. So basically you're annoyed with Mordor's "get over it" comment and yet you here are advising the same thing? No way man. If someone accuses me of being something I'm not, I'll fight to prove it's not the case. Not only have you to make it clear to that person you are not what they say you are, you have to think of how that reflects throughout the forum. Silence is taken as admission, so if I'm accused by god I'll stand up and make my case. Otherwise what's the point? Keep your head down and let people say allsorts?

Also, if this is your philosophy then why is it bothering you that we're talking about SF are we are? If it's not true, or you believe it not to be true, to use your own words, what does it matter?

I wanted simple clarification of a point, as I recall a pretty unimportant point, but she wouldn't oblige, and I was genuinely surprised as to why she would not. I was simply debating, then she turned me into a racist. I got better.


No, females rarely frequent these kinds of sites because they have better things to do, are interested in other things or have lives. It has nothing to do with being bullied by males.

*squints*

Being assumed to be a criminal and having that break up your schedule is indeed harassment and is actually unconstitutional. Plus, stop and frisk did not necessarily relate to any crimes that the police are investigating and looking for a suspect (they wouldn't need stop and frisk for a possible suspect, that would be probable cause), it was largely implemented as a preemptive law enforcement.

Exo beating me to the punch with that mod hive mind.

It could be for lots of reasons.

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I don't think I've suggested that there aren't any racist police officers whatsoever.

Can you post the legal definition of probable cause for the US please.