If You Want To Know Why The Spill Your Guts Thread Was Closed Read On

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

And he wasn't telling you how to moderate now. He was simply responding to a question. You asked him what he thought of the Lounge, and he gave you an honest opinion; that it was a fun yet chaotic place. Not once did he tell you to do anything. Hell, his response ended with "food for thought", not "take action now!"

You know, I used to work at a campground. If one day I had done the best possible work that I could have, and then asked my boss "Hey, could I be doing more?", how do you think he would have responded? Of course, he'd say "Yes, you should try to do more", because he's being paid to get as much work out of his employees as possible. But to try and act my boss's response was some sort of huge critique, or some sort of implication that i'm lazy, is looking way too far into things.

Be honest. It's becoming obvious that the owners don't even remotely care about us, or what we do, as long as we follow the basic rules and guidelines (which almost all of us have). If you want to crack down on the Lounge, then you as a mod have every right, but please don't act like you're being forced into it by the owners.

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Alright, I don't want to fan the flames here, but I want to make something clear. Urban, in your first post, you made it sound like you were being ordered to take recent actions, and said ominous things like this:



But when pressed for more details, you went on to post this:



I'm kind of confused. You made it sound like you were being ordered by the owners of the site to crack down on us, and yet the only involvement that the owners have in this whole situation is this:



Which is basically a "Yeah, sure, The Lounge can be kinda unruly. Feel free to do whatever you want." It wasn't a set of orders being thrown down by the angry owners, it was just Yac giving a sensible response when asked a question.

If i'm wrong about this whole thing, please correct me, but it seems like this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. The owners are as distant as they've ever been, and clearly couldn't care any less about what goes on around here. The real reason for all of this mess is this:



So the whole reason that this started is that a few users were complaining. But guess what? People will always complain about something. That's just what happens when you give people freedom of speech; people speak their minds, and feelings get hurt. Rock and Roll isn't going to destroy our children, and The Lounge isn't going to destroy us. You can ask us to clean up our act, and we will try our best to do so, but unless you turn us into robots, things are just going to revert back to normal in a week or two. It doesn't matter how many threads you close, you'll never take the off-topic banter out of the Lounge, which exists purely for that purpose.

Excellent posts. Also I just read your visitor message and I thought it was very sweet, thanks

However, I wonder how many of the members here will bash you for saying the very same thing that I did.

For some reason my opinions are only taken seriously when someone else here shares the same opinion. *shrugs* I have realized that the rules of this forum are created by a select elite or clique. The reason why I get constantly bashed here is because I break "the clique rules" by having a damn backbone and expressing my own opinion instead of following the protocol of the clique and I am find with that because that is not who I am.

I am not a follower and I don't need to kiss peoples asses to be liked or to "fit it" in on the internet or in my personal life.

The funny thing about this thread is, people constantly bash me but they don't even care about how their own moderators (that they put on a pedestal) talk to them and address them. Its very clear based on the responses in this thread that they are other things that need to be change about this forum not just the "members"

No one should not have to stroke your eagle to get you to do something or to make you understand an error on your part. Facts are facts. It doesn't make you a bad person but no one is perfect. You should have the maturity and dignity to admit when you are wrong....period. This is ridiculous now.

1. The first post in this thread goes against everything that it means to be a moderator and it lacks integrity

2. It shouldn't have to take a bunch of people to make you admit to error as a moderator.

Again, these things do not make you a bad person but don't sit here and act like you walk on water, when you don't.

A lot of people here kiss Urbans ass to much which is why he has a difficult time admitting to any shortcomings because this site elevates him to god like proportions and it needs to stop.

Because it is clearly not helping him as a moderator.

You have failed the forum and you need to improve your role as a moderator and I say this constructively and with respect.

[Plankton]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

For someone reason my opinions are only taken seriously when someone else here shares the same opinion.

I for one share the someone opinion.