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| View Poll Results: Are you in favour of a new policy for rule enforcement? (not anonymous) | |||
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20 | 55.56% |
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Born to be mild
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Personal attacks have no place in this thread, nor indeed in this forum.
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Alright, that's enough of this. Wake me up when either A) You people have figured this out or B) The forum is on fire and I should find my jacket before it burns.
I'll be with Batlord in the room where nobody gives a sh*t anymore. This thread is the most ironic thing I've ever seen on this forum. |
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Whatcha think? By the way, great idea about also adding letters to the poll options
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Partying on the inside
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I'm glad Tore drummed up the interest he did. Which is simultaneously off-putting, because you would think that if most people were feeling so strongly about the issue, we might have gotten notice before then. But since his post seems to have given others the confidence to say what they couldn't say on their own before, then let them speak. But let them speak precisely. You do this with multiple choice, not a package. This is not about Tore, it's about how to best represent the community Tore is trying to advocate for. If he is truly out there for the community, then he will agree, and I suspect he will, because I suspect he is. We could make the poll for him that includes the ability for each of Tore's proposed items to be selected individually, but since it was his proposal I think it best that we let him decide to do that or not. And his decision will say everything. And your decisions as a community if he decides to itemize rule changes as votes, will say even more. Edit: And with that, I'm out. I don't think there's anything further that needs to be said on the matter.
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I am not disagreeing with this... but I don't think its right to imply he did not try to get feedback from members regarding what THEY wanted to see implemented prior to the creation of the poll when he did. |
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![]() I definitely can see your point and wish I had thought of it myself. Perhaps a new poll could run alongside this or we chould shut this one down. On the choices for a new poll, I would like your input. How about something like this? Poll : Which of these statements do you agree with? (not anonymous) Options (multiple choice) :
Duration : 2 weeks Here they just vote for things they agree with. I could add counter-options to every option, but it would become a crazy ass long poll and we can sorta figure out from the answers what the voters don't want. Also, they could elaborate in the thread with a post. What do you think?
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I recommend keeping the current, simpler poll open for a total of 2 weeks, since it provides *some* data on what the community, including mods, feels. I have three suggestions about a multiple choice poll format: (1) I recommend that the multiple choice poll give people a chance to vote either YES or NO on each suggestion. While this does make a longer poll, it also makes understanding the results much easier and faster. For example, let's say 100 people in total vote in the poll, but we get only 20 votes for "the mod team should be bolstered with additional mods." Does that mean the other 80 oppose having more mods, or don't really feel it is necessary but don't really care one way or the other? By providing the NO option, this allows us to tell how many people feel strongly that the suggested change is bad. If only 10 people vote NO, then presumably (of the people who care), the vote would be 20 YES : 10 NO, and so the conclusion would be that having additional mods would be a change that could be made without bothering a majority of the voters. ALTERNATIVELY, you could explain that each measure would need votes from more than half the voters to be considered as a change to be made at Musicbanter (assuming we want a simple majority to be necessary for a measure to pass). (2) I would very explicity ask people to post in the new poll's thread to elaborate on their opinions about each proposal and to suggest any additional changes they might want to see at Musicbanter. One option in particular ("3. The rules should be revised") could be worded to ask voters to expain how they want the rules to be revised if they vote Yes. For example, the option could state: "The rules should be revised [Please post your suggested rule changes in the thread]." (3) I recommend that the fourth option read, "4. When enforcing rules, mods should strive to treat all members, including moderators, equally" to emphasize that moderators are not exempt from the rules. I also feel it would be good, in the new poll's original post, for information to be given about how the built-in infractions system works, so you would probably want to link to your thread that explains it. Thank you for continuing to work on this, Tore, and a thanks to all the members/mods who are sharing their opinions because they care about the Musicbanter community.
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Born to be mild
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I'm going to, insofar as I can and certainly with respect to these suggestions, refrain from posting/replying here, as I feel my posts will just be seen (rightly or wrongly) as a "my system is better than yours" sort of idea, which I do not want to happen. If I disagree with or comment on anything here it's inevitably going to include "in my system this happens..." so best I don't respond. This does not mean I'm not watching and reading, and if anyone asks me something directly or posts something slightly off-topic but still relevant, I will probably post. But for now, think of me as a sort of ghost haunting this thread. Anything I have to say will be posted in my own thread.
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