Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Announcements, Suggestions, & Feedback (https://www.musicbanter.com/announcements-suggestions-feedback/)
-   -   The Handling of Personal Attacks Going Forward (https://www.musicbanter.com/announcements-suggestions-feedback/91957-handling-personal-attacks-going-forward.html)

Frownland 07-07-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971578)
My point is (again, for the I don't know how manyth time) that once I realised he was saying that in response to a simple joke, totally unprovoked, considering the things he says, and has said, about me, yes I flipped out. Perhaps it wasn't the right way to handle it. I can accept that.

BUT

once I did, he should have backed off immediately and apologised. It was clear I was angry, was not taking it as a joke, and he continued to push me. THAT is what I have an issue with. I don't expect him to be clairvoyant, but when someone says "**** off that's not funny" it's a pretty clear indicator that it's time to stop, would you not agree?

Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure that he's stopped making personal jokes toward you.

Quote:

He did, absolutely. He kept saying "you said I could" like a child, as if, once i had tacitly accepted the things he said there were to be no limits on what he could say. I'm baffled, honestly. There was never a meeting where we sat down, PMed each other and said "come at me bro". It just happened and I accepted it because as I've already said, I thought he knew not to go too far. And when he did, I thought he would back off.
He still never said that you couldn't reverse your decision. His response was because you acted extremely outraged as if he should already know where the line is when it's actually very muddled by your past relationship.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971580)
Yeah, as pissed off as I was that he wished AIDS on me from my sister?

He didn't actually wish it on you dude, it was a joke. And yes I know you were mad but that's not really a good reason to insult other members, is it? I was just trying to explain the situation, not justify it btw.

Quote:

I didn't expect him to go as far as he did, and again it was UNPROVOKED! This is what really annoys me. There was no back-and-forth. I made a simple joke and he exploded with that comment. Why can nobody understand this?
I think what you're missing here is that it was intentionally hyperbolic. Hyperbole is meant to be so over the top that it's not meant to be taken seriously. It was "provoked" by your punny joke that he was annoyed by so he responded with what he viewed as a light-hearted jab. There were just some posts in between that and he didn't quote you so it did seem a bit out of the blue.

Trollheart 07-07-2018 11:30 AM

I'm not saying I didn't overreact but it was uncalled for and completey disproportionate. He doesn't like my joke, he says **** you but he has no need nor right to bring Karen into it, for no reason. Obviously he didn't actually mean it, I know that, but it's a horrible, hurtful thing to say, even in jest.

The core issue - and it should be the only one - here is that regardless of any previous behaviour, perceived permission, relationships etc, when someone tells you you've gone too far that should be it: no excuses, no complaints, no blaming the other party for "letting you do it", no attempts to justify their behaviour. It. Should. Stop. Immediately.

There can be no other argument. You go too far, you shut the **** up and back off. You don't, you're in trouble. And in the wrong.

Frownland 07-07-2018 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971589)
I'm not saying I didn't overreact but it was uncalled for and completey disproportionate. He doesn't like my joke, he says **** you but he has no need nor right to bring Karen into it, for no reason. Obviously he didn't actually mean it, I know that, but it's a horrible, hurtful thing to say, even in jest.

The core issue - and it should be the only one - here is that regardless of any previous behaviour, perceived permission, relationships etc, when someone tells you you've gone too far that should be it: no excuses, no complaints, no blaming the other party for "letting you do it", no attempts to justify their behaviour. It. Should. Stop. Immediately.

There can be no other argument. You go too far, you shut the **** up and back off. You don't, you're in trouble. And in the wrong.

Mostly, ja, but people are free to defend themselves. There is such a thing as overreaction.

Chula Vista 07-07-2018 12:28 PM

100 degrees out already and the sky is getting all dark and gloomy and I think....

Whoops, wrong thread.

The Batlord 07-07-2018 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971589)
I'm not saying I didn't overreact but it was uncalled for and completey disproportionate. He doesn't like my joke, he says **** you but he has no need nor right to bring Karen into it, for no reason. Obviously he didn't actually mean it, I know that, but it's a horrible, hurtful thing to say, even in jest.

The core issue - and it should be the only one - here is that regardless of any previous behaviour, perceived permission, relationships etc, when someone tells you you've gone too far that should be it: no excuses, no complaints, no blaming the other party for "letting you do it", no attempts to justify their behaviour. It. Should. Stop. Immediately.

There can be no other argument. You go too far, you shut the **** up and back off. You don't, you're in trouble. And in the wrong.

I think there's a fair argument to be made when the "injured" party is being inconsistent, self-righteous, and douchey.

Key 07-07-2018 12:44 PM

Group hug?

Oriphiel 07-07-2018 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971605)
100 degrees out already and the sky is getting all dark and gloomy and I think....

Whoops, wrong thread.

*pulls Chula back in*

No no. Right thread.

Chula Vista 07-07-2018 12:46 PM

One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another grabbing a bite of lunch.

"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

Obviously not a cure all, but I think it's been improving my forum presence.

Mindfulness 07-07-2018 12:48 PM

:o: sorry to my attacks on sock puppet accounts/people :o:

Oriphiel 07-07-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another, grabbing each other's balls.

Yes

grindy 07-07-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1971619)
:o: sorry to my attacks on sock puppet accounts/people :o:

Huh? Where and when did that happen?

rubber soul 07-07-2018 12:50 PM

Hey, Ori. This is serious s*** man, okay?


https://www.musicbanter.com/1971455-post160.html

Mindfulness 07-07-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1971621)
Huh? Where and when did that happen?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/632b...itemid=4448265

Oriphiel 07-07-2018 01:00 PM

I'm just imagining Mindfulness walking around town, shooting hoops and throwing Fiji water bottles at sock puppets.

Key 07-07-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another grabbing a bite of lunch.

"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

Obviously not a cure all, but I think it's been improving my forum presence.

Legitimately a great post.

Trollheart 07-07-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1971628)
Legitimately a great post.

Agreed.
I'm prepared to shoulder my share of the blame for this and move forward, once it's understood that from now on Karen is off-limits, not for discussion, but for crude comments. We agree on that, I reckon we can forget about all this. But it is, and should be, something of a watershed moment and should be marked for the future. This should never have happened.

That said, I'm happy to say it never happened and move into some alternate timeline where Batty and I are still friends. If he's willing.

MicShazam 07-07-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another grabbing a bite of lunch.

"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

Obviously not a cure all, but I think it's been improving my forum presence.

This is the kind of thing that's worth taking to heart and start living by.

Trollheart 07-07-2018 01:15 PM

https://image.shutterstock.com/image...-395326252.jpg

https://boldanddetermined.com/wp-con...-Handshake.jpg

MicShazam 07-07-2018 01:17 PM

An olive branch is nice and all, but I'd rather have the olives. Kind of rude to keep those for yourself when you're trying to show good will.

rubber soul 07-07-2018 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another grabbing a bite of lunch.

"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

Obviously not a cure all, but I think it's been improving my forum presence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1971633)
This is the kind of thing that's worth taking to heart and start living by.

Definitely. I communicated with someone here and it's good to see the human side of somebody. It's always good to talk things out.

Trollheart 07-07-2018 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1971639)
An olive branch is nice and all, but I'd rather have the olives. Kind of rude to keep those for yourself when you're trying to show good will.

I hate olives. You're welcome to them all.

[MERIT] 07-07-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

I doubt this would dissuade many of the people on this board LOL. We're all pretty ballsy.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-07-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1971682)
I doubt this would dissuade many of the people on this board LOL. We're all pretty ballsy.

**** you ****

am i doing it right

Neapolitan 07-07-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971589)
The core issue - and it should be the only one - here is that regardless of any previous behaviour, perceived permission, relationships etc, when someone tells you you've gone too far that should be it: no excuses, no complaints, no blaming the other party for "letting you do it", no attempts to justify their behaviour. It. Should. Stop. Immediately.

There can be no other argument. You go too far, you shut the **** up and back off. You don't, you're in trouble. And in the wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1962805)

^You've gone too far with this meme.

I was only trying to help you, and I was looking for a "thank you" and this is what I get in return?

Oriphiel 07-07-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971637)

He'll just try to smoke it

Neapolitan 07-07-2018 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1971616)
One thing I've been trying to do when I'm interacting with a member and it starts leaning negative, is to imagine that we're sitting across from one another grabbing a bite of lunch.

"Is what I'm about to type something I'd be willing to say to this person if we were sitting 3 feet apart?"

Obviously not a cure all, but I think it's been improving my forum presence.

Strange you say that cause I often daydream about you and Frownland having a conversation like at a restaurant. The daydream always ends the same way: with you flipping the table.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5UctQPVxjb91C/giphy.gif

The Batlord 07-07-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971631)
Agreed.
I'm prepared to shoulder my share of the blame for this and move forward, once it's understood that from now on Karen is off-limits, not for discussion, but for crude comments. We agree on that, I reckon we can forget about all this. But it is, and should be, something of a watershed moment and should be marked for the future. This should never have happened.

That said, I'm happy to say it never happened and move into some alternate timeline where Batty and I are still friends. If he's willing.

I have no particular desire to engage in some silly, petty feud.

Mindfulness 07-07-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1971626)
I'm just imagining Mindfulness walking around town, shooting hoops and throwing Fiji water bottles at sock puppets.

different towns but yeah , without the sock puppet stuff :yeah:

edit:
driving from one town to hoop, then another later in the day sometimes

Trollheart 07-07-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1971712)
He'll just try to smoke it

It would probably just burn up. I don't think olive branches were or are good for smoking.
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1971717)
I have no particular desire to engage in some silly, petty feud.

But the makeup sex is so good!

I'll take that as a yes then.

Lisnaholic 07-07-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1971723)
But the makeup sex is so good!

^ Now that is really offensive. Exo! EXO!

Key 07-07-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1971712)
He'll just try to smoke it

No. That's me.

Trollheart 07-07-2018 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1971740)
^ Now that is really offensive. Exo! EXO!

Ex-O! EX-O! EX-O! EX-O!
http://st3.cricketcountry.com/wp-con...1/04/1678.jpeg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1971741)
No. That's me.

You can fight over it.

[MERIT] 07-07-2018 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1971684)
**** you ****

am i doing it right

:beer:

OccultHawk 07-07-2018 05:58 PM

The OP feels a little weaksauce now.

The general message was tone it the **** down.

I think if I can chill anyone can chill.

Bat has always been the resident bad boy. I mowed his lawn for a while but I’m serious about my commitment to chill.

Key 07-07-2018 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1971757)
The OP feels a little weaksauce now.

The general message was tone it the **** down.

I think if I can chill anyone can chill.

Bat has always been the resident bad boy. I mowed his lawn for a while but I’m serious about my commitment to chill.

Saaaame.

The Batlord 07-07-2018 06:04 PM

I'm the bad boy? I thought that was OH.

Key 07-07-2018 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1971763)
I'm the bad boy? I thought that was OH.

I guess it should say "due to recent events, Bat is the bad boy"

Don't worry. I still like you.

The Batlord 07-07-2018 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1971765)
I guess it should say "due to recent events, Bat is the bad boy"

Don't worry. I still like you.

I like me too.

Key 07-07-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1971772)
I like me too.

It's good to have a friend. Even if it is yourself.

The Batlord 07-07-2018 06:14 PM

A friend and a lover.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:06 PM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.