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Old 03-29-2011, 05:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I liked it. Suppose I've heard too many albums of this type but it didn't really seem to push past what I'd consider the norm, so gave it a solid score.
WTF? Name an album with an earlier date with the same amount of intensity and violence in this genre. This album is absolutely revolutionary.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I liked it. Suppose I've heard too many albums of this type but it didn't really seem to push past what I'd consider the norm, so gave it a solid score.
Hmm...okay it didn't blow you away. I get that. But, there is no norm in early Industrial, it's not even a proper genre. I listen to a lot of music of this period that can fall under this tag, but I haven't come across anybody quite like Einstürzende Neubauten. And that goes for others as well, Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire, Monte Cazazza, SPK, Nurse With Wound etc. They all sound very different from each other, similar only in experimental approach and I guess in some transgressive spirit, but not formally.

Later though, there is a norm in EBM and so called electro-industrial of bands like Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Front 242 etc., and even more in various rock-industrial and metal-industrial mash ups.
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Hmm...okay it didn't blow you away. I get that. But, there is no norm in early Industrial, it's not even a proper genre. I listen to a lot of music of this period that can fall under this tag, but I haven't come across anybody quite like Einstürzende Neubauten. And that goes for others as well, Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire, Monte Cazazza, SPK, Nurse With Wound etc. They all sound very different from each other, similar only in experimental approach and I guess in some transgressive spirit, but not formally.

Later though, there is a norm in EBM and so called electro-industrial of bands like Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Front 242 etc., and even more in various rock-industrial and metal-industrial mash ups.

Well said.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:39 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Hmm...okay it didn't blow you away. I get that. But, there is no norm in early Industrial, it's not even a proper genre. I listen to a lot of music of this period that can fall under this tag, but I haven't come across anybody quite like Einstürzende Neubauten. And that goes for others as well, Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire, Monte Cazazza, SPK, Nurse With Wound etc. They all sound very different from each other, similar only in experimental approach and I guess in some transgressive spirit, but not formally.

Later though, there is a norm in EBM and so called electro-industrial of bands like Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Front 242 etc., and even more in various rock-industrial and metal-industrial mash ups.
I don't mean it insultingly. It was a good album.
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Old 04-02-2011, 01:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't mean it insultingly. It was a good album.
I didn't take it to be insulting. I just wanted to point out the word "norm" and how meaningless it is when applied to the original Industrial music.

Well, I suppose I should say something about this album before voting. It’s one of those albums that had enormous impact on how I viewed music, erased everything I thought I knew about it, every expectation I had and introduced me to endless musical possibilities. It didn’t do it single-handedly though. Sonic Youth’s Confusion Is Sex and Swans’ Filth led me to Neubauten. Strategies Against Architecture 80-83, a collection of early singles, B sides and live tracks, is the first record I heard from them, followed very soon by Kollaps. Years of listening have made these two interwoven in my mind. I might as well add Drawings of Patient O.T., their second proper album, which is a bit more cohesive and ‘musical’ and is usually viewed as the best in this early Neubauten period. That might be true, but it doesn’t have the same amount of rawness of the first album, the simple, crude necessity of destruction.

FM Einheit, one of the original members of the group, said it perfectly: "To rebuild music in a new way was the thing that I was most interested in Neubauten. To do something and in the next moment just to let the whole thing collapse and look at it from a different angle.” This idea of destroying in order to create something new, is what this album is all about, from the title to the use of drills, power tools etc. to the Blixa Bargeld’s screaming and ranting. The only one with a guitar (although totally ****ed-up), his screams are like manifestos of collapsing, an anchor, a thought in chaos.

It’s kinda hard for me to choose favorites, I’ve always listened to it as a conceptual whole. But, it’s clear that the title track is the center of the album. I cannot describe how strong impression it left on me when I first heard it some,... well, many years ago. I realised this week that I haven’t listened to Neubauten in a very long time, so this album club made me get back to them and remind myself of the sound perpetual collapsing and rebuilding. Did I mention they got me into Industrial? Yeah, that too...

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