Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Avant Garde/Experimental
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-21-2014, 09:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,447
Default

Never really understood the John Zorn circle jerk.

Naked City were entertaining for a short while as were Painkiller but I find most of his other stuff that I've heard just outright forgettable.

Give me some Soil & Pimp Sessions or Acoustic Ladyland over his tuneless drivel anyday.

Edit: Oh and Glenn 'I take the most boring part of a Sonic Youth song and drag it out over the course of a whole album' Branca can fuck off too
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

Last edited by Urban Hat€monger ?; 12-21-2014 at 09:23 AM.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
stay the |fvck| inside
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North of Antarctica
Posts: 33,175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? View Post
Never really understood the John Zorn circle jerk.

Naked City were entertaining for a short while as were Painkiller but I find most of his other stuff that I've heard just outright forgettable.

Give me some Soil & Pimp Sessions or Acoustic Ladyland over his tuneless drivel anyday.
He's got a million different styles though.




That's not even the tip of the tip of the air above the iceberg.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mordwyr View Post
That John Cage asshole is...an asshole, too.
Asshole's not the right word; Cage has a notoriety for being one of the more humble and nice composers in the music world. It's a shame that one composition has closed your mind to Cage though, he's made thousands of great classical compositions.

__________________
At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,447
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post

That's not even the tip of the tip of the air above the iceberg.
I've listened to at least 7 or 8 of his solo albums from the 80s to the present day (Not including Painkiller, Naked City or a few of his collaborations) and nothing on them did anything for me.
Collaborating with other artists, fine,
Him on his own, not really interested.
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
stay the |fvck| inside
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North of Antarctica
Posts: 33,175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? View Post
I've listened to at least 7 or 8 of his solo albums from the 80s to the present day (Not including Painkiller, Naked City or a few of his collaborations) and nothing on them did anything for me.
Collaborating with other artists, fine,
Him on his own, not really interested.
What'd you listen to? Personally, I find his Filmworks series underwhelming.
__________________
At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 17,138
Default

Zorn has recorded so much it's very hard to know what to make of him. Everyone says Masada and from what I've heard I agree. He plays on Peace on Earth - Prima Materia (Coltrane Tribute) with Rashied Ali which has to be the best thing he's managed to stick his nose into.
OccultHawk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
stay the |fvck| inside
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North of Antarctica
Posts: 33,175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
Zorn has recorded so much it's very hard to know what to make of him. Everyone says Masada and from what I've heard I agree. He plays on Peace on Earth - Prima Materia (Coltrane Tribute) with Rashied Ali which has to be the best thing he's managed to stick his nose into.
My favourite's Naked City and his classical bits (Madness, Love, and Mysticism, The Alchemist, On the Torment of Saints, the Casting of Spells and the Evocation of Spirits), but Masada's up there too. I've got to hear that record you mentioned, Rashied Ali's one of my all time favourites.
__________________
At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,447
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
What'd you listen to? Personally, I find his Filmworks series underwhelming.
My memory is a little foggy on some of them but I know I've heard the Big Gundown, Spy vs Spy, one of his real early ones possibly Archery, Godard/Spillane and couple of filmworks albums and a couple that he released in the mid 2000s which names escape me because I didn't keep them.

I think listening to 12-15 albums of someone is a fair crack of the whip.
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 09:57 AM   #18 (permalink)
stay the |fvck| inside
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North of Antarctica
Posts: 33,175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? View Post
My memory is a little foggy on some of them but I know I've heard the Big Gundown, Spy vs Spy, one of his real early ones possibly Archery, Godard/Spillane and couple of filmworks albums and a couple that he released in the mid 2000s which names escape me because I didn't keep them.

I think listening to 12-15 albums of someone is a fair crack of the whip.
Sounds like you do have a good understanding of his music in that case. Idk how you feel about classical, but the three albums I've mentioned above in response to OccutHawk are really something else if you're ever in the mood to try him again.
__________________
At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2014, 12:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
Prepare 4 the Fight Scene
 
Mondo Bungle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 7,592
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post

__________________
https://www.last.fm/user/templeruins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oriphiel View Post
Hmm, what's this in my pocket?

*epic guitar solo blasts into my face*

DAMN IT MONDO
Mondo Bungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2014, 09:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
DeadChannel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,258
Default

Not sure if it counts as experimental because this is about as commercial as post rock gets, but I've always been completely unable to appreciate Explosions in the Sky.
DeadChannel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2020 Advameg, Inc.