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Old 09-14-2008, 07:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Their orchestra leader guy knows all about metal. It was sweet!
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, that guy. He knows metal, and I saw how we worked stuff with Metallica to do it, and it's just awesome.

Michael Caymen or something his name is... that's what James Hetfield says at the end of the album at least.

Still sweet. Taking the boring orchestra stuff and giving it a metal makeover. Perfection.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Taking the boring orchestra stuff and giving it a metal makeover. Perfection.


You need to listen to some orchestral stuff.

I think that The Scorpions - Moment of Glory was more successful in blending two different genres, though the music isn't as good, the orchestral side is much better.
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You need to listen to some orchestral stuff.

I think that The Scorpions - Moment of Glory was more successful in blending two different genres, though the music isn't as good, the orchestral side is much better.
I've been forced to listen to Back and Mozart by my Dad in a car... every day... for 4 weeks through the winter... it made me feel ill and gave me headaches.

I can't stick orchestra stuff... give me rock any day.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've been forced to listen to Back and Mozart by my Dad in a car... every day... for 4 weeks through the winter... it made me feel ill and gave me headaches.

I can't stick orchestra stuff... give me rock any day.
Back? Sorry I can't let this one go. I'm sure your dad feels the same about all that shitty grunge you like as well. Diss on a genre all you like provided you know a little about it. Until then: go educate yourself.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I believe I can give a little insight on this thread:

If you want really amazing orchestrated music, the 1st thing you have to ask yourself is from what period of music do you prefer:

Baroque: Bach, Handel, Scarlatti, etc.
Classical: Mozart, Hayden, Piccinni, etc.
Romantic: Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Verdi, etc.
20th Century: Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, Debussy, etc.

The best thing to do is to listen to samples of each of the above composers, then target in on which period you like the most. As for me, my favourite pieces include:

Beethoven's 9th Symphony
Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #3
Mahler's 5th Symphony
Shostakovich's 24 Preludes and Fugues

Of the above, Beethoven is from The Romantic Period while Rachmanioff, Mahler, and Stostakovich are all from late Romantic/20th Century period

Hope this is a starting point: Once you enter the rhelm of Classical Music, there's seriously so much variation and pieces available that it takes more than a lifetime to truly enjoy...
Possibly the most helpful post ever. My problem has always been finding the 'best' rendition of a given piece. My dad was a purist. e.g. i'd sooner download the London or Berlin Symphony's version than the same piece by the Toronto Orchestra. Is there any substance in this or am I just unnecessarily limiting my options?
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As far as orchestrated pieces, there's so much to choose from, so I'll just scratch the surface:

Joseph Hayden - Messiah
W.A. Mozart - Symphony No. 15 in G major, K. 124
Johan Strauss I - Radetzky-Marsch op. 228
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 9 in D minor "Chorale"
Hugo Wolf - Italian Serenade
(This piece is more of a small orchestra piece rather than a whole symphonic orchestra, but still rather good!)
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Possibly the most helpful post ever. My problem has always been finding the 'best' rendition of a given piece. My dad was a purist. e.g. i'd sooner download the London or Berlin Symphony's version than the same piece by the Toronto Orchestra. Is there any substance in this or am I just unnecessarily limiting my options?
If you take Beethoven's 5th symphony and listen to the first few notes 'Da da da daaaaaa' and listen to ten recordings of it you'll most likely hear ten different versions of it. It is very common to like a piece of music and listen to a new recording of it and not be keen on it. This is where the conductor mostly comes in. He interprets a lot of things such as tempo, flow, volume, and blends different parts of the orchestra as he sees fit.

As for limiting your options? I wouldn't say that exactly but if you hear a piece and it doesnt do much for you, maybe try listening to one or two different versions of it before you make you mind up.
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When I saw this topic I immediately came to say JOHN WILLIAMS JOHN WILLIAMS but then I saw you already listen to him Howard Shore - he does the Lord of the Rings score and is similar to Wiliams in many respects.
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