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Hear Hear!
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"What do you think today's music means?" It means music that touches upon the innovations and themes significant to the people alive today. You could say Top 40 definitely fits here, yet most of it doesn't age well and ends up being forgotten later on. Personally, the music of today will push the music of tomorrow. It's a link in the progression of art. As for classical music, it is, clearly, still relevant. It continues to move people emotionally and make them think — whether it's Bach or Kodaly. I'm sorry if this is lazy, but watch this if you're still doubtful. This man explains this in both a hilarious and elegant way. Quote:
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It's a historical fact that classical music was not the music of the common man it was funded by the wealthy for the wealthy, you would have heard it in the church that the affluent city folk attended but you would not hear it in a rural church of workers the primary reason for this is it requires a lot of leisure time to learn and appreciate
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It's nonsensical because its basis lies in the societal structures of then paralleling those of now, which is just incorrect. The part in bold is incorrect as well. One does not need to learn/appreciate classical music in order to enjoy it. While it might be the case for some, this notion can be applied to any music. For example, there was a time where I despised the music of The Beach Boys, but I eventually learned to appreciate and enjoy their music. The same can be said about The Fall (yes, I see your avatar). It took a while, but something eventually "clicked" after listening to (ironically enough) "The Classical." Now, they're one of my favorite post-punk bands, and Mark E. Smith stands as one of my favorite lyricists of all time. Yet, I instantly loved The Goldberg Variations upon first listen. I didn't have to "get it" enable to enjoy it. I just enjoyed it for what it was. |
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What the hell, I'll jump in the pool. Some of the best classical music I've been exposed to has been via present era movies. A great example is the opening sequence of Melancholia which uses Wagner's Tristan und Isolde Prelude to amazing affect. I immediately downloaded it and listen to it almost every day.
http://donniebshawn.com/Wagner-%20Tr...%20Prelude.mp3 So hauntingly beautiful. *sniff*
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That's an excellent soundtrack choice on von Trier's part, I agree.
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The use of Handel on Antichrist is another good example of von Trier's soundtrack genius (which I am just realizing).
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von Trier shooting the opening of Melancholia in super slow motion with just the sounds of Wagner's piece almost echoed what Kubrick did with The Blue Danube.
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This thread basically boils down to classical lovers coming to defend their genre. This thread doesn't mean what most people think it means. They read the thread title and are all like "oh hell no". I like classical music myself but I understand that question that Burning Down posed.
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