The Official Iraq War thread (country, African, quote, Viola)

[i get high sometimes]

No, Luxemborg is the richest country in the world.

And you didn't propose ending world hunger, you proposed attacking the country.

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Ugh, I hate all this Pro-life crap. Always about sparing human life, even if it means leading to stagnation. Hell, even if it means leaving some people alive that could kill you.

Life was meant to die. Don't delay the inevitable and let it become some obstacle in gaining more power.

[i get high sometimes]

Its cute that you take philosophy lessons out of the sh*tty metal music you listen to.

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Why do you assume that?

[right-track]

Originally Posted by i get high sometimes

No, Luxemborg is the richest country in the world.

And you didn't propose ending world hunger, you proposed attacking the country.

Only per capita, followed in second place by Equatorial Guinea.

Neither of whom could solve world hunger.

And drop the personal remarks please.

[Alexander the Grape]

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

Ugh, I hate all this Pro-life crap. Always about sparing human life, even if it means leading to stagnation. Hell, even if it means leaving some people alive that could kill you.

Saving people's lives doesn't lead to stagnation. If anything having more people leads to greater advancements. Look at how immigrants enrich our country.

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

Life was meant to die. Don't delay the inevitable and let it become some obstacle in gaining more power.

Life was meant to end after a certain time. Its not natural for an 8 year old child to die.

Its more than just death too. People in those countries are suffering, usually fates worse than death. Women are being gang raped in Darfur, children are going hungry, watching their parents murdered in front of their eyes, being burnt out of their villages.

If you think stuff like that is ok, and shouldn't be stopped, then all I can say is (just happened to see that smilie, and it spoke to my soul)

[i get high sometimes]

who is editing my posts? mods? is that modly behavior?

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Originally Posted by Alexander the Grape

Saving people's lives doesn't lead to stagnation. If anything having more people leads to greater advancements. Look at how immigrants enrich our country.


Life was meant to end after a certain time. Its not natural for an 8 year old child to die.

Its more than just death too. People in those countries are suffering, usually fates worse than death. Women are being gang raped in Darfur, children are going hungry, watching their parents murdered in front of their eyes, being burnt out of their villages.

If you think stuff like that is ok, and shouldn't be stopped, then all I can say is (just happened to see that smilie, and it spoke to my soul)

To the first part; I'm not saying it WILL lead to stagnation, I'm saying it CAN. The strong will spend all their energy helping out the weak. You would think this'll make society stronger, but it doesn't; The weak get all this help from people better than them, and what has the weak gained? Nothing except whatever resulted from someone elses work.

I'll give you a figurative example; two men live in an apartment together. One has worked their ass off to get to where he is. The other just lays there doing nothing but wasting away. The better man practically supports this whelp and the whelp holds back the better man from achieving even more. If the better man was smart, he would forget the other guy and leave him to fend for himself. In this little scenario, he does just this. NOW; the ****head is all alone now. HE has very little experience when it comes to making a hard living. One of two things can happen; He can crash, burn and die, and society has been rid of another poor excuse for vermin. OR he can fight back; get a job, start paying his own way for once, maybe pay his way through college and get a good education. It'd be hard, but he would benefit A LOT more from doing that, and society instead welcomes another member to the superior race.

Second part; I believe that if it happens, it's natural. There is nothing abnormal in this world, not really. We just perceive it as unnatural because it goes against the norms we've grown accustomed to. A child SHOULDN'T have to die, but children do, unfortunately. It's just something we have to accept.

Third Part; Where did I say that gang-raping and starvation were ok? It's meaningless torture. If there IS a just reason to attack a country, it's to stop that **** from happening, one way or another.

[i get high sometimes]

I think you are engaged in a severe case of blaming the victim. You classify the poor as 'lazy' as 'welps' as 'poor excuses for vermin' and as 'sh*theads'. If those statements aren't the textbook definition of ignorance and conservative class-ideology, then I don't know what is. Your analogy is fatally flawed in that, while in your scenario the poor man is poor voluntarily, through his unwillingness to recieve education, his unwillingness to get a job, you are completely out of touch with the reality of the situtation. Not suprising from you, but nonetheless.

The poor are not poor out of laziness. Repression and economic slavery keep them subservient to a system that systematically exploits them. Public education in rural and ghetto areas is the worst you can get. The poor obviously don't have access to private educations, so they are stuck with horrendous public education that does nothing but discourage them. What do history teachers teach you? That rich white men control the country. Whether consciously or subconsciously, ideas like this discourage children in poor areas. Children who have seen what their parents lives have become, nothing. Poverty could almost be classified as a genetic disease. It is difficult to escape the ghetto. You are put into a situation where white contractors construct gun store after liquor store after gun store in your neighborhood. The teachers in your school are underpayed and consequetially have very little desire to raise the bar on their education standards. School is uninteresting and unneccessary, so they drop out. It is a cycle that isn't as easily broken as you make it sound. Of course, you are almost certainly a middle-class to upper middle class white boy who is incapable of sympathizing with those less fortunate because you are bred with this hateful ideology that leads you to characterize the poverty stricken as sh*theads on internet forums. You are a disgrace.

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Originally Posted by i get high sometimes

I think you are engaged in a severe case of blaming the victim. You classify the poor as 'lazy' as 'welps' as 'poor excuses for vermin' and as 'sh*theads'. If those statements aren't the textbook definition of ignorance and conservative class-ideology, then I don't know what is. Your analogy is fatally flawed in that, while in your scenario the poor man is poor voluntarily, through his unwillingness to recieve education, his unwillingness to get a job, you are completely out of touch with the reality of the situtation. Not suprising from you, but nonetheless.

The poor are not poor out of laziness. Repression and economic slavery keep them subservient to a system that systematically exploits them. Public education in rural and ghetto areas is the worst you can get. The poor obviously don't have access to private educations, so they are stuck with horrendous public education that does nothing but discourage them. What do history teachers teach you? That rich white men control the country. Whether consciously or subconsciously, ideas like this discourage children in poor areas. Children who have seen what their parents lives have become, nothing. Poverty could almost be classified as a genetic disease. It is difficult to escape the ghetto. You are put into a situation where white contractors construct gun store after liquor store after gun store in your neighborhood. The teachers in your school are under payed and consequentially have very little desire to raise the bar on their education standards. School is uninteresting and unnecessary, so they drop out. It is a cycle that isn't as easily broken as you make it sound. Of course, you are almost certainly a middle-class to upper middle class white boy who is incapable of sympathizing with those less fortunate because you are bred with this hateful ideology that leads you to characterize the poverty stricken as sh*theads on internet forums. You are a disgrace.

That all just means that they have to work harder. Willpower is everything.

People let themselves be discouraged, consciously or not. It's their fault for not having the motivation to be great. Poverty is an obstacle they will have to overcome, and if they do, they become better stronger people.

And no, I don't classify the poor as ****heads. I classify the poor who choose to live like that when they can fight back and beat the system as ****heads.





And before this comes up, I am not boasting. I grew up with an easy life. I grew up with practically everything handed to me. I was spoiled. I'm weak. I'm just as weak as the people I hate.