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Old 07-22-2019, 02:12 PM   #18461 (permalink)
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why's it got to be about my life decisions and **** damn get off my back Dad
Because that's every conversation on MB.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:17 PM   #18462 (permalink)
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I did d00d

what do you want from me
You didn't.

You just have a doctrinaire and generic statement about global order etc

My question was basically about the pragmatic important of trying it on a small scale to learn more about the problems and challenges that will crop up. As well as whether it might be more likely to start on a smaller scale and expand than to be ushered in as a global system all at once.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:17 PM   #18463 (permalink)
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I don't do **** I just complain. I'm mostly sick of trying.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:19 PM   #18464 (permalink)
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If you haven’t read the Communist Manifesto he’s not deflecting. He’s giving you guidance so you can communicate as a peer with people who are educated on the matter. If you haven’t read Marx we can’t discuss Marxism.
I've read it. It was a while ago. Please cut the relevant passages that answer my question rather than directing me to go reread some boring Marxist tract.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:21 PM   #18465 (permalink)
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TFW you discover JWB is a street version of DWV.
cause we both believe in goals

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Old 07-22-2019, 02:22 PM   #18466 (permalink)
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you should use sparknotes
you should stop posturing. At this point I'm not even convinced you've read the book you told me to go read.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:23 PM   #18467 (permalink)
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TFW you discover JWB is a street version of DWV.
That's insulting.. jwb puts effort into his posts, i got bored of your virtue signaling well over a year ago.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:30 PM   #18468 (permalink)
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the answer is sorta

and that it's inevitable because of this list of flaws inherent in capitalism that the majority of The Manifesto is about
So... we're supposed to wait and just let things happen or?
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:38 PM   #18469 (permalink)
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the answer is sorta

and that it's inevitable because of this list of flaws inherent in capitalism that the majority of The Manifesto is about
Fair enough at least you answered

I'm not convinced though... Other orders have always emerged gradually over time. The idea of the entire world going communist at once seems far fetched to me.

And Marx had some good points about capitalism but he was also wrong about some things. EG he said the rich would get richer and the poor poorer. Instead both are getting richer but the rich is getting richer faster.
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idk I can't answer what you personally should do goddamn!
Why not?
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