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Old 04-29-2018, 09:08 AM   #11271 (permalink)
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I find it quite hilarious that Trump is already being given, in some quarters, credit for this historic cooling of tensions between the two Koreas. I mean, they've done this on their own - Trump hasn't even made his "historic visit" yet - but you can be that if it goes well, history will be revised in years to come to make it look like it was all Trump's doing. Nobel prize my arse!
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:51 AM   #11272 (permalink)
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Trump is going to expect this to be the meeting where NK gives up on their nuclear programs because "rocket man" was just too scorching an insult

doesn't seem likely and Idk what the reaction is going to be
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:17 PM   #11273 (permalink)
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I suppose it's fair to accept that it's been Trump's hardline rhetoric that has convinced Kim he's dealing with an even bigger madman than he is, and this one has the means to destroy him, and probably would do, without a second thought. But that doesn't make Agent Orange eligible for the ****ing Nobel Peace Prize! You might as well give it to Hitler for "convincing" the Czechs not to oppose the invasion of their country, or to Bush for "liberating and bringing democracy to Iraq." Yeah. Let's do that.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:50 PM   #11274 (permalink)
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Kissinger, Gorbachev, Arafat, Rabin, and Obama have all won it. The first 4 had some nasty **** on their resumes already and Obama ended up being the Ted Bundy of drone strikes.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:03 PM   #11275 (permalink)
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Kissinger, Gorbachev, Arafat, Rabin, and Obama have all won it. The first 4 had some nasty **** on their resumes already and Obama ended up being the Ted Bundy of drone strikes.
So has Carter.
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Old 04-29-2018, 02:27 PM   #11276 (permalink)
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So has Carter.
Yeah, I know. And Gore. But imo they both have relatively clean histories. Especially Carter. If wasnít predisposed to hate everyone I would enjoy liking Carter. He did some good ****.
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Man, that Wiki entry does have some nasty names on it. Sheesh.

Trump is only coming up in conversation about the Nobel Peace Prize because President Moon specifically thanked Trump for paving the way for the talks to happen. That's why the media is in a frenzy: Trump didn't just arbitrarily take credit in this case.
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Man, that Wiki entry does have some nasty names on it. Sheesh.

Trump is only coming up in conversation about the Nobel Peace Prize because President Moon specifically thanked Trump for paving the way for the talks to happen. That's why the media is in a frenzy: Trump didn't just arbitrarily take credit in this case.
Bollocks. His intention was to strongarm Kim into giving up his nuclear program, otherwise he'd nuke North Korea. He had no intention of doing anything peaceful, but you can be sure he'll milk this for all it's worth. ****.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:31 PM   #11279 (permalink)
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Man, that Wiki entry does have some nasty names on it. Sheesh.

Trump is only coming up in conversation about the Nobel Peace Prize because President Moon specifically thanked Trump for paving the way for the talks to happen. That's why the media is in a frenzy: Trump didn't just arbitrarily take credit in this case.
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Claiming a large measure of credit for inter-Korean talks held this week, Trump told the crowd "I had one of the fake news groups this morning, they were saying, 'what do you think President Trump had to do with it?"

"I'll tell you what ó like how about 'everything,'" Trump said. The crowd cheered.
That quote doesnít disprove what youíre saying though.

Itís hard to imagine Trump winning the NPP but I probably wouldíve bet my life against a nickel that he wouldnít win the primary. Then again the presidency. Now I donít assume absurdities wonít happen. They keep happening.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:33 PM   #11280 (permalink)
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Bollocks. His intention was to strongarm Kim into giving up his nuclear program, otherwise he'd nuke North Korea. He had no intention of doing anything peaceful, but you can be sure he'll milk this for all it's worth. ****.
I donít see how what youíre saying contradicts what Antís saying though.
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