The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yeah, your right, that was poor wording.

Or you could point out what you think I'm being disingenuous about and we can have a grown up conversation. Pouting in the corner won't change my mind, which I'm always very open to do.

The position I invented was how I read it. Feel free to correct me. It's pretty hard responding to multiple people at once as quickly as possible.

You're not interested in a grownup conversion, buddy. That's the issue.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Are you going to answer the question?

So do you think racism is a great idea or what?

It tickles me.

WTF more do you want? I’m not dodging your question.

[DwnWthVwls]

Let's rewind to the part where I asked how the tweet is racist, and you and Frown both respond with some version of "because she's black". That says nothing about if the comment is actually racist. Pointing out that Roseanne has a history of racism and when considering things I wasn't the tweet is likely racist is a much better point than "because shes black".

I'm always open for adult discussions. Seems like you're just being stubborn because I annoyed you.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

You're not interested in a grownup conversion, buddy. That's the issue.

Nah, that's not DWV. He's a wanker for many reasons, but not wanting to have intellectual discussions is not one of them.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I think it's more eye rolling at the public reaction to the tweet since the public generally elicit eye rolling.

By taking up the opposite eyeroll worthy stance that racism is virtually nonexistent?

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think I've been here and involved with these discussions long enough for you to know that's not how I feel. Now who's being disingenuous?

You were suggesting that Roseanne was not being racist because she was simply being observational. That implies that people with racist instincts are not racist if they more subtle about it.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Let's rewind to the part where I asked how the tweet is racist, and you and Frown both respond with some version of "because she's black". That says nothing about if the comment is actually racist. Pointing out that Roseanne has a history of racism and when considering things I wasn't the tweet is likely racist is a much better point than "because shes black".

I'm always open for adult discussions. Seems like you're just being stubborn because I annoyed you.

1. I said that it was the history of the term. In a vacuum, blacks don't have a longstanding history of being the victims of racism so I couldn't have said that it was because she was black. Boom, gotcha bitch!
2. It's literally dehumanizing. Any other questions?

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by elphenor

we all resemble monkeys that's why that insult directed at blacks hints at a subconscious racism at best

That's actually horrendous logic since your first point would make any comparison of any human to a monkey pointless and redundant. There'd have to be a greater physical appearance to monkeys among black people for it to make sense.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

By taking up the opposite eyeroll worthy stance that racism is virtually nonexistent?

When did he say that?

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Frownland

By taking up the opposite eyeroll worthy stance that racism is virtually nonexistent?



You were suggesting that Roseanne was not being racist because she was simply being observational. That implies that people with racist instincts are not racist if they more subtle about it.

No I wasn't, and I've already said, in light of discovering her racist history that yes, there likely was a racist undertone. However, that was never what I was arguing.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

When did he say that?

He didn't directly say it. It's a fold of crusading against rather apparent accusations of racism.