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OccultHawk 06-04-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1958362)
You realise that Chula, Hawk and Elph abbreviates to....
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...px-CheHigh.jpg

Kewl

The new alliance is born.

DwnWthVwls 06-04-2018 05:32 PM

Youre the "old wrinkly balls part" btw.

OccultHawk 06-04-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1958370)
Youre the "old wrinkly balls part" btw.


Trollheart 06-04-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1958369)
Kewl

The new alliance is born.

Of course, if you then add me you get
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...het_Atkins.jpg

OccultHawk 06-04-2018 05:42 PM


DwnWthVwls 06-04-2018 05:51 PM

Sexuality absolutely, but I don't think we have a good enough understanding about gender indentity to open that can. Pronoun fuckery and all that is some pretty dangerous territory. Agreed otherwise.

Frownland 06-04-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1958365)
To be fair, that was bad wording on my part.

To clarify...

This wasn't a case of the Supreme Court saying "It's okay for you to not serve gays". This was a case where the baker was asked specifically to closely and intimately design a cake for a homosexual couple. This is something he doesn't believe in so his decision was, in my opinion, legal according to our laws. You're not required to offer a specialized intimate wedding cake as part of your services. It'd be like being forced as a gay baker to make a cake for somebody who wanted "death to all homos" on it.

Have you found anything that suggests that his process or cake would have been any different for a straight couple?

Exo 06-04-2018 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1958387)
this is where it's important to understand the intent behind anti-discrimination laws

people who want "death to all homos" written on **** would not be under a protected class, and should not be

the laws are not meant to give you the right to demand anything you want from a business

sexuality and gender identity is not yet a federally protected class, but I'd argue, and I'd venture to say you'd agree, that it should be

Right. But we aren't talking about this, or at least I'm not, in respect to the ACTUAL case. Read the reaction details from the Justices. The baker was not denying the couple his service on any of his other goods. Just the personalized wedding cake. He simply did not, under his religious beliefs, feel comfortable making them the cake. That doesn't make him a bigot. It makes him a narrow sighted and stupid man. The dude even offered the numbers of other bakers that would accommodate them.

This isn't a case about discrimination. It's a case about whether the owner of a private business has the right to decline making a client a personalized cake, which could kind of be construed as a piece of art, and the state and this couple went after him as if he was a bigot.

I've changed my tune a bit after actually reading the details of the case. The couple seems like they want to be victimized and garner attention. This isn't the way to do it.

Frownland 06-04-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1958397)
He simply did not, under his religious beliefs, feel comfortable making them (homosexuals) the cake. That doesn't make him a bigot.

Lol k

Chula Vista 06-04-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1958340)
The lawyers for this couple didn't particularly do a great job here.

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