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Old 12-16-2018, 07:45 PM   #15941 (permalink)
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What's your point?
That it's easy to stick pointy things into strawmen.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:15 PM   #15942 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:20 PM   #15943 (permalink)
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We all have our moments. I'm sure you'll be thinking more clearly when you're sober.
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Old 12-16-2018, 09:13 PM   #15944 (permalink)
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No I said owed specifically because you are entitled to it

not "able to afford"

it is owed to you for YOUR labor

and it's important that people see it this way, I'm not for charity, I'm for justice
Someone else's labor is not owed to you simply because you chose to exert yours.

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No, it's not.

Nobody owes you jack shit.
Just what is owed to you under your job contract, which you and your employer agreed to.

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If you go into the medical profession then you've become a public servant. Your entire job is to keep the human race from dying. Not just those with money.
The vast majority of all jobs can be considered a "public service" if you think about it hard enough.

I think we're throwing around the words "owed" and "entitled to" a bit too arrogantly.

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Equating the seriousness of the profession with it being de facto government work is an embarrassing example of thinking with your feels.
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Old 12-16-2018, 09:39 PM   #15945 (permalink)
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We all have our moments. I'm sure you'll be thinking more clearly when you're sober.
I am sober, I'm just pointing out how you went around the world in more ways than one to strawman me and now you claim I strawman you when you ask vague pointed questions?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 12-16-2018, 10:09 PM   #15946 (permalink)
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I am sober, I'm just pointing out how you went around the world in more ways than one to strawman me and now you claim I strawman you when you ask vague pointed questions?
You're not strawmanning me. You're strawmanning the medical profession.
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Old 12-16-2018, 11:48 PM   #15947 (permalink)
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How prevalent would you say that is?
90% of every urban school district with that demographic

Like every school in inner city Baltimore DC Atlanta LA Chicago Houston Mobile Sacramento New Orleans and about 30% of Florida plus a lot more around the country.
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Serious question

How old will elph be when he finally registers as a Republican?
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:24 AM   #15949 (permalink)
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You're not strawmanning me. You're strawmanning the medical profession.
By suggesting a generic hypothetical?
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:51 AM   #15950 (permalink)
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a living wage is not always part of the "terms of employment" either
So true. I work a job that you'd think would pay me a living wage when I could hardly afford to get by.

That's been the case for majority of my jobs. Especially when working for Sodexo where my boss could hardly even afford an apartment.

The ****tiest revelation is when you find out you work twice as hard as people that get paid much much more than you.

You know the stupid stereotypical stories you get from delusional parents that tell you they used to walk 3 miles home from a job or some **** to afford their house or their new car? That's me except I still can't afford a car or even an apartment. And my insurance is trash. Most people with my conditions could hardly even hold a job and I've had to with no treatment or care for it just to struggle to get by.

I don't understand why the same people that shove the "life isn't fair" **** down your throat are the same ones that believe you get what you earn. You don't. You get taken advantage of because there is nothing you can do about it.
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