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Old 12-17-2018, 01:43 PM   #16901 (permalink)
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By suggesting a generic hypothetical?
Yes. That's part of what that is.
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:49 PM   #16902 (permalink)
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Okay, not making judgements of doctors is strawmanning doctors. What's the other part?
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:54 PM   #16903 (permalink)
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Wouldn't "strawmanning doctors" have to involve misrepresenting arguments made by doctors in order to make said arguments easier to defeat?
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:57 PM   #16904 (permalink)
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He set the medical profession up as an opponent, assuming their position might be to not help others in need. This is not how doctors act, but it was a ridiculous position that was easily attacked and knocked down.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:00 PM   #16905 (permalink)
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When did I do this? I think you just jumped on "public servants" and when I made it clear I wasn't talking about government officials you just jumped to something else cause otherwise you'd have nothing to bitch about. Maybe you're just strung out having to deal with your middle-aged pregnant wife and her beef curtains.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:15 PM   #16906 (permalink)
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:34 PM   #16907 (permalink)
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Stop with the personal jabs
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:22 PM   #16908 (permalink)
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I think I misunderstood what a strawman argument means. I got the gist, but I misapplied how its used.

Your ad hominem, however, is clear.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:46 PM   #16909 (permalink)
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So true. I work a job that you'd think would pay me a living wage when I could hardly afford to get by.

That's been the case for majority of my jobs. Especially when working for Sodexo where my boss could hardly even afford an apartment.

The ****tiest revelation is when you find out you work twice as hard as people that get paid much much more than you.

You know the stupid stereotypical stories you get from delusional parents that tell you they used to walk 3 miles home from a job or some **** to afford their house or their new car? That's me except I still can't afford a car or even an apartment. And my insurance is trash. Most people with my conditions could hardly even hold a job and I've had to with no treatment or care for it just to struggle to get by.

I don't understand why the same people that shove the "life isn't fair" **** down your throat are the same ones that believe you get what you earn. You don't. You get taken advantage of because there is nothing you can do about it.
^ I'm sorry to hear that, Lucem; it must be a lousy position to be in. I'm not sure if it would be consoling or depressing to read Nickel and Dimed. Have you heard of it? A journalist tries out some low status jobs, like office cleaner, and also explains the traps that low-wage earners fall into in the US.

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Old 12-17-2018, 05:52 PM   #16910 (permalink)
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She worked those jobs for a short time and really got an inside look about their lives and how hard they work. A lot of people have to work more than one job to get by, and at the end of the day they're exhausted. Every day. It's grueling and really rather hopeless. A powerful book, that.
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