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Old 06-09-2019, 10:02 AM   #18041 (permalink)
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Just my guess but I suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming NAZI in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for Jews if she had lived in Nazi Germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip I doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

A certain race shouldn’t be heard... hmmm...Where have I heard that before?
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:07 AM   #18042 (permalink)
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:08 AM   #18043 (permalink)
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I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.
normal people dont sympathize with hitler and nazi's
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:09 AM   #18044 (permalink)
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After watching Chernobyl, I came to the realization that pretty much all "leaders" give zero sh*ts about what real problems are. They instead, focus on how decisions affect them. Trump has been a absolute monster in this case.

Move on to the next monster. I'm tired of this one.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:09 AM   #18045 (permalink)
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just my guess but i suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming nazi in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for jews if she had lived in nazi germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip i doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

a certain race shouldn’t be heard... Hmmm...where have i heard that before?
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:06 AM   #18046 (permalink)
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"SJW" is not exactly an equivalent to Nazi

most leftists aren't exactly upset about being labelled as pro-justice
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:23 AM   #18047 (permalink)
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I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.
I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.
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I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.
You pretty much enable fascism every time you spend your money at Wall-Mart, the supermarket or the gas station though. At least according to some of the standards I see being espoused 'round here.
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You pretty much enable fascism every time you spend your money at Wall-Mart, the supermarket or the gas station though. At least according to some of the standards I see being espoused 'round here.
Sure, but there's again a spectrum and if you vote for and support Trump you're farther on that spectrum than I am for buying shirts at Walmart. I'm definitely supporting fascist capitalism but that's quite a bit farther down the spectrum from justifying a wall of hate like you do.

And of course there's the fact that you're engaging in dip**** propaganda by pointing out a form of the truth that gives you an out for actively and vigorously supporting white supremacy. We're both guilty of fascism but you're proud of it and pretending it's laudable.
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Sure, but there's again a spectrum and if you vote for and support Trump you're farther on that spectrum than I am for buying shirts at Walmart. I'm definitely supporting fascist capitalism but that's quite a bit farther down the spectrum from justifying a wall of hate like you do.

And of course there's the fact that you're engaging in dip**** propaganda by pointing out a form of the truth that gives you an out for actively and vigorously supporting white supremacy. We're both guilty of fascism but you're proud of it and pretending it's laudable.
Triple the ad hominem attacks, triple the fun. Gonna have to do better than that if you wanna play with the big boys, my Hitler-loving amigo.

You guys are so damn scared of Trump that you can't even have a discussion about anything related to him without trying to tear down other people. That's pretty pathetic.
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