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Old 07-20-2019, 07:29 PM   #18301 (permalink)
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Also I edited so check the edit to see if there's anything else you would respond to
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:32 PM   #18302 (permalink)
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John Taylor Gatto pretty much nailed it.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbing_Us_Down
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:36 PM   #18303 (permalink)
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Lol... That's great and all but... Any chance of a quick version for those of us not dedicated enough to read a book to win an online argument?
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:42 PM   #18304 (permalink)
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Basic math and reading skills only take about 3 years to learn. After that you’re set to learn more in that arena if you choose. So outside of that it’s better to let children decide for themselves. Stealing their autonomy with forced schooling hinders their education by denying their curiosity and sense of ownership with the process.
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:47 PM   #18305 (permalink)
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obviously the current system is ineffective and inefficient, but children do developmentally benefit from routine and structure and the social learning that school provides. and we can't ignore the fact that having children in school keeps parents working, if we are assuming capitalistic priorities aren't going to change anytime soon. i think in an ideal world around 6th grade children would enter a charter school style group-learning environment where the curriculum is self lead and interest based.
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So you would want like 3 years of forced education... Then beyond that maybe they go to trade school or maybe they continue their education to go to uni? Almost sounds like a republicans wet dream
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So you would want like 3 years of forced education... Then beyond that maybe they go to trade school or maybe they continue their education to go to uni? Almost sounds like a republicans wet dream
No. I’d completely abolish public schools. And money.
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:53 PM   #18308 (permalink)
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And no idea in how you'd replace the govt based infrastructure for schooling? Or kids would just grow up without any education instead?
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children do developmentally benefit from routine and structure and the social learning that school provides
I don’t think there’s any evidence of that. I think they suffer under the stifling conditions of stupid routines that were originally designed for factories and prisons.
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Old 07-20-2019, 07:57 PM   #18310 (permalink)
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And no idea in how you'd replace the govt based infrastructure for schooling? Or kids would just grow up without any education instead?
No education is better than the anti-education brainwashing bull**** they get now.

Yes, no formal education would be a vast improvement.

It’s school where we learn to be sheep.

Btw schooling does not equal education.
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