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Old 07-20-2019, 08:27 PM   #18321 (permalink)
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If they did, would that influence your opinion?
That’s a great question.

The answer is no. Compulsory education is immoral. That’s the real crux of my beef with it. Good call.
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:30 PM   #18322 (permalink)
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OH found some flaws in the education system. I suppose that means we better just scrap it all, man. Then we'll be more equipped to take on THE MAN, man.
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:31 PM   #18323 (permalink)
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Your thesis that schools actually provide that structure, assuming it’s even beneficial, is going to be impossible to prove.
= "I will not believe any evidence provided to me"

How does it feel to be a Christian?
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:35 PM   #18324 (permalink)
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= "I will not believe any evidence provided to me"

How does it feel to be a Christian?
That’s like 70% fair. The anarchist stuff can be kind of evangelical.
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:55 AM   #18325 (permalink)
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https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-49042372



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Old 07-21-2019, 12:33 PM   #18326 (permalink)
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Cowardice.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:10 PM   #18327 (permalink)
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Why don't you watch that Christchurch video again and see how you feel.
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:21 PM   #18328 (permalink)
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As engineer Mindfulness must know, when you have more than one error, if you are lucky, the two errors may cancel each other out. Other times, both errors are in the same "direction" and you get a cumulative error that is more serious than either of the individual errors.

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No education is better than the anti-education brainwashing bull**** they get now.

Yes, no formal education would be a vast improvement.

It’s school where we learn to be sheep.

Btw schooling does not equal education.
^ I think your post has a cumulative error, OH. "Brainwashing" exaggerates the effect of formal schooling, and "sheep" underestimates the resilience of mind that many of us are born with.

If schoolchildren were brainwashed, then surely there'd never be a discipline problem in a classroom. Truancy, disorder and bullying all indicate that any attempt at brainwashing has clearly failed.
And if schooling turns children into sheep, well, who amongst us has not been to school? Are we, yourself included, sheep? Or did we instead take what was useful to us from our school years, and use it as we chose outside the school environment? That's what me and my friends did every day after class: ridiculing teachers and rules, but using techniques like analysis and writing to express opinions of our own.
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School is where our minds are trained to believe that it’s an acceptable state of affairs to give up the bulk of your time and energy as a human being to be a cog in the economic capitalist machine. And yes we all suffered the effects. Every move we make in compliance to the oppressive panoptical system we live under was drilled into us at school.
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:45 PM   #18330 (permalink)
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I don't think we have a better option but school is definitely a brainwashing institution. A curriculum created by the government whose interest it is to make children support that government and the society under that government isn't going to be anything other than brainwashing. Even when the people writing the textbooks aren't actively thinking about brainwashing they're still generally going to at least subconsciously write chapters and use word choices that some radical anarchist probably would have issues with and often rightfully so. Imagine how almost two decades of that at your most formative years would channel your attitudes and thought processes for the rest of your life.

I say this as someone who thinks that parents are likewise a form of societal indoctrination but also doesn't think that there's a workable alternative so take that as you will.
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