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The Batlord 09-21-2019 04:03 PM

He definitely doesn't know his employees' names.

OccultHawk 09-21-2019 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079425)
Thinking that the federal minimum wage goes up to 20 dollars an hour seems pretty out of touch. You should read your own sources:

Or he could get JWB to read it to him.

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Anteater 09-21-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2079419)
It said "exactly" minimum wage. And below.

And out of the 80.4 million people being paid any kind of hourly rate, that's 2.3% (or less) of the total. And that's still only a chunk of the total U.S. population. Those 80 million represent (supposedly) around 58.3 of all salaried workers in the United States. So let's say the ultimate grand total (taking that number into consideration) is 160 million or so.

The idea that 42% of that can't afford insurance and pay bills or whatever doesn't add up when you look at those statistics.

Frownland 09-21-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079431)
And out of the 80.4 million people being paid any kind of hourly rate, that's 2.3% (or less) of the total. And that's still only a chunk of the total U.S. population. Those 80 million represent (supposedly) around 58.3 of all salaried workers in the United States. So let's say the ultimate grand total (taking that number into consideration) is 160 million or so.

Wait, so 170 million Americans are unemployed or paid under the table (which usually means less than minimum wage)?

The Batlord 09-21-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079431)
And out of the 80.4 million people being paid any kind of hourly rate, that's 2.3% (or less) of the total. And that's still only a chunk of the total U.S. population. Those 80 million represent (supposedly) around 58.3 of all salaried workers in the United States. So let's say the ultimate grand total (taking that number into consideration) is 160 million or so.

The idea that 42% of that can't afford insurance and pay bills or whatever doesn't add up when you look at those statistics.

I make eight ****ing dollars an hour. That statistic does not include me. I can not afford an apartment, food, and, insurance. I am not an outlier. And if you could refrain from giving me disingenuous "advice" to distract from the point that would be great.

Anteater 09-21-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079432)
Wait, so 160 million Americans are unemployed or paid under the table (which usually means less than minimum wage)?

No, there's 170-ish million people on some kind of salary or hour wage if the 80 million cited represents around 58% of all salaried workers. Out of those, only 1.8 million (as noted) are at or below the federal minimum wage. That's not a lot compared to the whole working population.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2079435)
I make eight ****ing dollars an hour. That statistic does not include me. I can not afford an apartment, food, and, insurance. I am not an outlier. And if you could refrain from giving me disingenuous "advice" to distract from the point that would be great.

If your already applying to different places then there's no advice I could give you that you wouldn't sneer at anyway. I've covered this topic before with practical advice so there's no point in going over it again.

The Batlord 09-21-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2079433)
there can't be a "other side" that's the point

that's why the Soviet and old Chinese model was doomed to fail in terms of human rights

There's always another side until you kill everyone but you.

Frownland 09-21-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079436)
No, there's a 160-ish million people on some kind of salary or hour wage if the 80 million cited represents around 58% of all salaried workers. Out of those, only 1.8 million (as noted) are at or below the federal minimum wage. That's not a lot compared to the whole working population.

So they're just a minority which means that they don't matter, cool.

What about the 170 million people who fall outside of that working population? Are they also reaping the benefits of capitalism?

jwb 09-21-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079432)
Wait, so 170 million Americans are unemployed or paid under the table (which usually means less than minimum wage)?

not necessarily

That's more so for immigrants who get exploited

My dad worked under the table his whole life and he made decent money for a while. It's just a matter of not wanting to create a legal business and assume the costs that go with that

My mom also hustled on the side cleaning rich people's houses. Also better paying than your average low end wage slave job.

jwb 09-21-2019 04:20 PM

I'm not against it in principle but I'm too cynical to expect that

I would probably hide a gun somewhere just in case it was the old banana in the tailpipe


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