it wasn't a single post. It was a theme and even mini argument within the larger debate over whether a fantasy can be disturbing. Pretty sure if you read my posts correctly you would have known from page 1 I was not under the impression that the people in the porn are actually related.

You guys just wear me down by somehow splitting hairs over single words and phrases I use while not even comprehending the gist of my argument

That's why I've grown weary of this pass time. I just wasted half a day on this nonsense. **** me

What about my other scenarios? :(

At the risk of using a logical fallacy id just like to poiint out that when Frown, Bat, Elph, OH, and myself all agree on something your position has to be ****ed.

Nobody said the bolded, it's just that role playing and the audience's knowledge of that are relevant factors to consider when claiming that these incest videos are making sexuality more depraved.

*Performs a one man tango*

Nah you speak out both sides of your mouth with that ****. "It's not relevant." "I've already made that distinction." Pick one, mother****er.

Nah, sexual harassment can leave you feeling much more vulnerable, uncomfortable and unsafe compared to the average harassment of a **** job. Even then, having a humiliating job and being humiliated on a job are two different things.

The difference in the porn industry is that it lacks regulation and you get women lying about their age, women getting suckered into it, and women that are kidnapped and raped on camera. I'm sure the same thing happens to men too.

As for the taboo aspects of porn, I think as long as nobody is getting hurt it's probably more harmful to repress you sexuality than it is to explore it through pornography. With a few things that I think are a bigger sign of deeper issues such as women pretending to be children and extreme bdsm. I don't think either are causing the moral decay of society and I don't think society is less moral now than before. I think we're probably more moral now than before especially in being more open about sexuality. I think the evangelical Christians that harp on about the depravity of nudity and such are just as perverted as us but they keep it behind closed doors. Fuck that, they're the ones with the child fucking priests. Maybe if they were more open with their sexuality they wouldn't be so tempted to exploit young naive children who don't even know what's going on.

How much does this actually happen though? Don't get me wrong, the taboo of even treating pornography as a legitimate enterprise causes lawmakers to just ignore it and leave it a wild west ****hole just so they don't have their names on some pornography law, but does this really create an industry of rape and pedophilia or does it create an industry of extra special worker exploitation that should be solved by Marx rather than Chris Hansen?

It sounds like you're conflating sex trafficking with pornography, and while I'm sure sex trafficking and pornography overlap, I'm dubious that it's the calamity you're painting it as. I mean how many men kidnap women, rape them and film it, and then sell the evidence that would put them in jail for decades? Sounds like a severe niche that doesn't have much to do with the actual porn industry.

not really

Every time I get in an argument on here it's me vs everyone else, and you clearly can't even comprehend my point based on your responses

And **** your other scenarios.


once again if you actually followed the argument you would be aware that while I agree actual incest is more disturbing, I still find incest role play and the audience that gravitates towards it kinda creepy. This was literally established near the beginning of the argument when (i think) batlord pointed out is just role playing and I said as much to him then.



... I'm really tired of going in circles

I said it doesn't matter with regard to whether you call it incest porn, for reasons i spelled out. You and I literally already had this discussion where I said that to me even the fantasy is disturbing. You forgot that quickly?

I agree the priests should be more open about their sexuality and just join NAMBLA

I mean it's better than repressing it right

I think it's making certain trends more prevalent

Some of those trends I don't mind and some I find creepy. Incest fantasies, rape fantasies, scat, certain forms of humiliation... Yea I dunno but that **** seems ****ed up to me.

Not that I would condemn the person but maybe they need therapy or some ****

Beastiatlity, necrophiles... Even more twisted

Pedophiles.. just kill them tbh

No, I'm not confusing the two I'm just pointing out the overlap that I think you underestimate. It's not just raping women on camera, it's forcing women to do porn on camera. Which is still rape, just not as you're picturing it.