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Frownland 11-07-2017 09:10 PM

I doubt the shroom thing would go anywhere but it sure would be neat.

And of course we need to poke our kids with the brainwash juice, even if they end up with Merit's condition as the great McCarthy theorized, it beats death.

[MERIT] 11-07-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1891666)
I doubt the shroom thing would go anywhere but it sure would be neat.

And of course we need to poke our kids with the brainwash juice, even if they end up with Merit's condition as the great McCarthy theorized, it beats death.

What condition do I have?

Frownland 11-07-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891668)
What condition do I have?

*Which

The Batlord 11-07-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891668)
What condition do I have?

I'm assuming he's calling you autistic.

[MERIT] 11-07-2017 09:41 PM

Autism: Made In The U.S.A. [Gary Null]

The Drugging Of Our Children [Gary Null]

I Cure Cancer [Ian Jacklin]

Making A Killing: The Untold Story Of Psychotropic Drugging [The Citizens Commission On Human Rights]

The Marketing Of Madness: The Truth About Psychotropic Drugs [The Citizens Commission On Human Rights]

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up To Catastrophe [Andrew Wakefield]

[MERIT] 11-07-2017 09:44 PM

Vaccine-induced injury isn't cool bruh.

The Batlord 11-07-2017 09:47 PM

Where do you stand on Paul McCartney being dead since 1966?

Frownland 11-07-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891672)
Autism: Made In The U.S.A. [Gary Null]

The Drugging Of Our Children [Gary Null]

I Cure Cancer [Ian Jacklin]

Making A Killing: The Untold Story Of Psychotropic Drugging [The Citizens Commission On Human Rights]

The Marketing Of Madness: The Truth About Psychotropic Drugs [The Citizens Commission On Human Rights]

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up To Catastrophe [Andrew Wakefield]

TFW your stance is so weak that you have to use Scientology organizations to justify it.

Those are seriously garbage sources dude. Just to give you an idea of how I view them, imagine that you said 9/11 was staged and I responded with an essay written by Dick Cheney about how true the official story was.

However, I must say that as a marketer you give me hope.

[MERIT] 11-07-2017 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1891676)
TFW your stance is so weak that you have to use Scientology organizations to justify it.

Those are seriously garbage sources dude. Just to give you an idea of how I view them, imagine that you said 9/11 was staged and I responded with an essay written by Dick Cheney about how true the official story was.

However, I must say that as a marketer you give me hope.

I am personal friends with one of those sources, so, on his behalf, fuck you.

[MERIT] 11-07-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1891675)
Where do you stand on Paul McCartney being dead since 1966?

Couldn't care less one way nor the other.

Frownland 11-07-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891677)
I am personal friends with one of those sources, so, on his behalf, fuck you.

If it's Wakefield, could you PM me his address?

If it's any of the others, tell them that they're a piece of **** for trying to profit off of anti-scientific fear mongering.

Chula Vista 11-07-2017 10:04 PM

Merit:

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the mainstream media published a story this week. They wanted you to believe that an academic had devised a mathematical model showing that if conspiracy theories such as faked moon landings to dodgy vaccines were really true, someone would have blabbed about them way before now.

Like you were the sheeple, not the people.

Are you sitting comfortably? Have you swept the room for cia/mi5/ufo surveillance devices? Then we shall begin.

This all started when someone who says he is oxford university physicist dr david robert grimes published a paper, “on the viability of conspiratorial beliefs”, in the peer-reviewed online journal plos one.

He examined the time it took to expose proven cover-ups, and calculated – based on his estimates of how many people would have known about the plot – how long some conspiracies could have endured before the truth leaked out.

Dr grimes said he had shown “how eyewateringly unlikely some alleged conspiracies are”. He reckoned a vaccination conspiracy involving big pharma would be blown in just 3.15 years, a plot to suppress the discovery of a cancer cure within 3.17 years.

And that’s when it all started getting a little spooky. Because i phoned someone – someone heavily involved in investigating this stuff – to ask how they could believe the apollo moon landings were faked.

Dr grimes reckoned that with nasa employing up to 411,000 people at the time, someone would have spilled the beans within 3.68 years. So how come no one had blown the whistle in the 47 years since the first apollo landing in 1969?

The answer, when the source thought about it, was so obvious. “someone did blow the whistle!”

you just had to take a close look at those so-called photographs of the so-called moon landings: Anomalous footprints everywhere. Whistle-blowing stagehands had left a whole trail of clues, if only we hadn’t been too stupid to see them. “this is bigger than just going to the moon,” insisted the source. “check out corona satellites … apollo was a cover for installing a spy satellite ring. This was top secret stuff…”

what about dr grimes?

“you’ve got a brain. Look at the bigger picture. Our nasa friends are facing challenges – financially, politically. If you are an academic taking so much trouble to publish this, i would suggest you are firefighting.”

it got spookier. According to ian henshall, the author of 9/11 revealed: The new evidence i should have been asking who the real conspiracy theorists were.

Could i really believe official accounts of a bunch of guys destroying the twin towers from a cave in afghanistan?

“i would say the official 9/11 conspiracy has been exposed as false,” said mr henshall, 64, a coffee shop owner. “but most people think i’m the conspiracy theorist for saying so.

“and george bush: Was he really the idiotic dupe?”

george w bush? Intelligent? It sounded crazy, but unlike the moon landings, this stuff was real.

Because here was the post-turquoise phase granddaddy of them all, david icke, telling an american tv talk show host: “the ground is being prepared for this global orwellian state … able to stay under the radar, manipulate in the shadows…”

icke tweeted his response to dr grimes’s study: “how about if compartmentalisation means most don’t have the big secrets and those who do are scared to reveal them?

“what are the ‘maths’ on that mate?”

ah, compartmentalisation: Working on a need to know basis, thousands of people employed on the apollo project, but only a senior handful knowing where neil armstrong was really taking his giant leap for mankind.

Helpfully, icke’s website included a link to a news story about dr grimes’s report. And it had been archived under “illuminati criminals” and “mind control”!!!

What was it icke had said? “where do the mainstream media go to get a fix on reality (if they bother to question it all)? They go the system’s scientists…”

well i was going to dr grimes, to ask him some real questions. Such as: “what are the maths on that mate?” and “how long have you been an illuminati criminal in the pay of nasa?” oh, he was good.

“i’ve never been called an illuminati criminal before,” he said, all irish charm and, as he put it on his twitter feed, “foppish hair”. “it’s definitely a step up from doctor.”

he was not an illuminati criminal, he said, just someone concerned about how belief in conspiracies can corrode belief in science, producing situations where otherwise sensible people refuse to vaccinate their children or choose “alternative” cancer therapies over lifesaving mainstream treatments. As for compartmentalisation, given how universal vaccination was, his numbers for those involved in any conspiracy there were probably “a massive underestimate”.

“that’s before you consider the russians, who would have been monitoring everything … and the stuff left on the moon that you can shine lasers back off …”

“the conspiratorial fringe,” he sighed, “will always believe. It’s fascinating psychology – ideological reasoning: What’s most important is that the construct exists, and you shape all evidence to fit it.”

i was almost convinced. Until i asked about nasa.

“if i ever get a cheque from nasa,” he “joked”, “i’ll buy you a beer.”

what? Was he trying to buy my silence, about his own academic conspiracy? “oh no,” he laughed, “no.”

Chula Vista 11-07-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1891684)
I too can make a blog I will be the best source

Not a blog DA. It's not an opine. It's a quoted interview.

Chula Vista 11-07-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1891686)
in response to merits sources

My bad.

Janszoon 11-08-2017 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891678)
Couldn't care less one way nor the other.

Why not?

Trollheart 11-08-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891645)
Dude, I'm pretty sure that I could say that an orange is orange and I would have a dozen ass clowns lined up on here to refute it.

Don't be a fruitist
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1891675)
Where do you stand on Paul McCartney being dead since 1966?

Considering the quality of his music recently, I'd agree.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1891676)
TFW your stance is so weak that you have to use Scientology organizations to justify it.

Those are seriously garbage sources dude. Just to give you an idea of how I view them, imagine that you said 9/11 was staged and I responded with an essay written by Dick Cheney about how true the official story was.

However, I must say that as a marketer you give me hope.

Or KSM
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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1891677)
I am personal friends with one of those sources, so, on his behalf, fuck you.

It's not Cheney, is it?

Chula Vista 11-08-2017 01:42 PM

Trump's Department of Justice (headed up by Jeff Sessions) finds a way to stick it to CNN? If true this is so ****ed up.

US regulators reportedly demand CNN sale to approve AT&T-Time Warner deal - Business Insider

Trollheart 11-08-2017 03:13 PM

Thoughts?

Woman Loses Job Over Flipping Trump Off

Frownland 11-08-2017 03:19 PM

I don't think that they should have done it because it was on her own time and she isn't doing anything that would connect her to the business. That said, they're a private institution so they've done nothing illegal.

OccultHawk 11-08-2017 03:26 PM

Akima, LLC Home » Akima, LLC

What a ****ing repulsive unimaginative spirit destroying ****hole. I’m surprised anyone can last a week there without committing suicide.

Trollheart 11-08-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1891957)
I don't think that they should have done it because it was on her own time and she isn't doing anything that would connect her to the business. That said, they're a private institution so they've done nothing illegal.

I know what you mean. I just think the photographer was a dick. No reason for him to have taken the damn picture, or keep it. Just stirring the ****. Kind of stupid of her to capitalise on it though. I think it was harsh. They could have just asked her not to do that again. Firing her is a bit over the top I think. What about "the above is the personal opinion of one employee and does not reflect the position of the company as a whole"?

Trollheart 11-08-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1891963)
Akima, LLC Home » Akima, LLC

What a ****ing repulsive unimaginative spirit destroying ****hole. I’m surprised anyone can last a week there without committing suicide.

Yer wan has nice tits though. :D

The Batlord 11-08-2017 03:43 PM

This is why I think social media should be considered lawfully private by employers. People put stupid **** on there all the time and shouldn't feel like they're being spied upon, cause businesses straight up will spy upon you. They're basically strangers and shouldn't have access to what you do on your private time the same way stalkers shouldn't.

Psy-Fi 11-08-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1891956)

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The photo only showed Ms Briskman from the back, unidentifiable, her left arm out and middle finger up.

It didn't take her long to realise that she was the person in the photo soon all over the internet and television.

She proudly posted it as her profile picture on her Facebook and Twitter pages.
She decided to out herself as the cyclist, the company honcho's decided her actions were inappropriate and she was an embarrassment to the organization, so they fired her.

Totally believable news story.

I'd be fired from my job if I was foolish enough to do the same thing.

OccultHawk 11-08-2017 03:48 PM

https://www.linkedin.com/in/julibriskman

I guess she’ll need to update this. She seems like a bit of a **** herself.

OccultHawk 11-08-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1891978)
She decided to out herself as the cyclist, the company honcho's decided her actions were inappropriate and she was an embarrassment to the organization, so they fired her.

Totally believable news story.

I'd be fired from my job if I was foolish enough to do the same thing.

You need a stronger union.

rubber soul 11-08-2017 04:16 PM

Well if ESPN can fire you for being, um, outrageous (Curt Schilling comes to mind), I guess Akima can fire someone for being too liberal or whatever. It does give them something of a black eye though.

The Batlord 11-08-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1892024)
they can

But the question is should they be able to

what good is freedom of expression if your employment can deny it on even your own time

Again, social media should be legally private and your employer should **** off.

Trollheart 11-08-2017 05:06 PM

Eating is overrated.

Frownland 11-08-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1891964)
I know what you mean. I just think the photographer was a dick. No reason for him to have taken the damn picture, or keep it. Just stirring the ****. Kind of stupid of her to capitalise on it though. I think it was harsh. They could have just asked her not to do that again. Firing her is a bit over the top I think. What about "the above is the personal opinion of one employee and does not reflect the position of the company as a whole"?

Nah the photographer is 100% fine in this situation.

Trollheart 11-08-2017 05:37 PM

Holy good ****! Just imagine the fine due on that!!!
Book Returned to Dublin Library After 177 Years

OccultHawk 11-08-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1892116)
Nah the photographer is 100% fine in this situation.

I agree. It’s a presidential motorcade. The woman was willing to represent it, too. The company sucks a dick, though.

Chula Vista 11-08-2017 06:20 PM

Social media and private can't co-exist.

[MERIT] 11-08-2017 06:36 PM

U.S. To Be Charged With War Crimes In Afghanistan?

Spoiler for FULL TEXT:
A prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) is pursuing a war crimes investigation against the United States for its conduct in Afghanistan following the 9/11 terror attacks.

Chief prosecutor Fatou Bensouda said last year that the U.S. military and CIA could be guilty of war crimes for its torture of detainees in Afghanistan between 2003 and 2014. The Guardian reported that “Bensouda’s report last year said the alleged US war crimes ‘were not the abuses of a few isolated individuals. Rather, they appear to have been committed as part of approved interrogation techniques in an attempt to extract ‘actionable intelligence’ from detainees.” Now, she is seeking approval from the court to move forward. According to the Guardian:


“Her request comes after an unusually long preliminary process, which has dragged on for 10 years because of a lack of capacity at the court as well as lobbying from the Afghan government, which tried to block it. The Afghan president, Ashraf Ghani, met with Bensouda as late as September during the UN general assembly.”

Bensouda also highlighted potential war crimes by the Taliban and the Afghan government, noting that overall, “10,000 civilians were said to have been killed from 2007 to 2011 alone,” the Independent noted. The Afghan government has resisted investigations, as has the U.S. Last year a State Department official said it was “unwarranted” and “unjustified.”

Nevertheless, Bensouda intends to investigate “crimes against humanity and war crimes such as murder, imprisonment, targeting humanitarian workers, use of child soldiers and carrying out executions without sentencing from the formal legal system,” the Guardian summarized.

Until 2016, the ICC had only investigated crimes in Africa, drawing criticism that it harbored a pro-western bias. It has since launched investigations in other parts of the world, including Iraq, Cambodia, Greece, Colombia, and Ukraine.

The United States is not a member of the court; during George Bush’s presidency, he declined to participate, claiming the U.S. could be unfairly attacked for political reasons. Though the U.S. is not a member, its officials could still be liable if found guilty because the crimes were committed in Afghanistan, which is a member.

The Guardian reported:

“The next step is for a pre-trial chamber of judges to consider the prosecutor’s request, which human rights observers in Kabul believe they will.”

Human Rights Watch said:

“Having documented egregious crimes in Afghanistan that have gone unpunished over many years, we hope this step will open a path to justice for countless victims there.”

Given the court’s previous aversion to prosecuting the U.S. for war crimes, it remains unlikely there will be any convictions. The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission, launched as an alternative to the Hague-based ICC, previously found George Bush and Tony Blair guilty of “crimes against peace” during the Iraq War, but both men walk free.

The U.S. has long been accused of war crimes, including potential crimes in drone warfare, as well as during the Vietnam War.

Katherine Gallagher, a senior lawyer at the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) in New York, was pleased with the ICC’s move to potentially hold U.S. nationals accountable, especially in light of President Trump’s decision to increase troop levels (similar to the Obama administration).

“This long overdue message that no one is above the law is particularly important now, as the Trump administration ramps up military machinations in Afghanistan and embraces the endless war with no plan in sight,” she said.

According to Bensouda:

“For decades, the people of Afghanistan have endured the scourge of armed conflict. Following a meticulous preliminary examination of the situation, I have come to the conclusion that all legal criteria required under the [ICC’s] Rome statute to commence an investigation have been met.”

She also said:

“In accordance with the office’s policy and practice, the ultimate focus will be upon those most responsible for the most serious crimes allegedly committed in connection with the situation in Afghanistan.”

[MERIT] 11-08-2017 06:40 PM

LAPD Launches Investigation Into Hollywood Pedophile Ring After Corey Feldman Files Formal Report

Spoiler for FULL TEXT:
Earlier this week, following a series of interviews with Matt Lauer, Megyn Kelly and Dr. Oz, Corey Feldman announced via twitter that he had filed a formal complaint with the Los Angeles Police Department regarding a pedophilia ring that he says has persisted in Hollywood since he burst onto the scene as America's favorite child actor in the 80's.

Of course, Feldman's credibility on the topic was questioned last week after he told Matt Lauer that he would only name names if he could raise $10 million to make a full-length motion picture about his abuse...which led many, including Lauer, to question whether Feldman's story was real or just a self-enrichment scheme.

Alas, we now seem to have some level of confirmation that Feldman has a real story to tell as the Los Angeles police department has confirmed to the Hollywood Reporter that he did, in fact, file a full report which has been referred to the department's "Robbery/Homicide Division" for investigation.

Of course, as we pointed out last week, Feldman did identify one of his six alleged attackers, during an appearance on the Dr. Oz show, as his former assistant John Grissom.

Feldman has been a fixture on the daytime talk show circuit since first revealing in mid-2006 that he and his friend Corey Haim were the victims of a Hollywood pedophilia ring. Feldman said he wanted to name Grissom in his 2013 memoir Coreyography, but his lawyers warned him not to.

Feldman has said the men repeatedly molested him, while Haim was repeatedly raped - a trauma that Feldman said contributed to Haim’s death by drug overdose.

Of course, Feldman’s claims are receiving new attention amid the deluge of accusations of sexual assault and abuse that have been levied against many powerful figures in the entertainment and media industries. Actor Kevin Spacey saw Netflix cancel his series “House of Cards” after actor Anthony Rapp said Spacey molested him in the 1980s.

Combined with the Weinstein accusations and a whole host of new allegations of treacherous behavior that spring up daily, Hollywood seems to be growing very close to its inevitable end game: complete self-destruction.

[MERIT] 11-09-2017 02:53 AM

The Jews are trying to throw CHARLIE SHEEN under the bus because he wouldn't play ball with CHUCK LORRE & LEE ARONSOHN on "Two And A Half Men."

Charlie Sheen sodomized Corey Haim at 13 on set of Lucas | Daily Mail Online

The Batlord 11-09-2017 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1892272)
The Jews are trying to throw CHARLIE SHEEN under the bus because he wouldn't play ball with CHUCK LORRE & LEE ARONSOHN on "Two And A Half Men."

Charlie Sheen sodomized Corey Haim at 13 on set of Lucas | Daily Mail Online

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[MERIT] 11-09-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1892274)

Hitler was just a useful idiot for ThePowersThatBe. I don't like him either, like I've said numerous times. The Nazi's and the zionists can both eat a dick.

Janszoon 11-09-2017 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1892272)
The Jews are trying to throw CHARLIE SHEEN under the bus because he wouldn't play ball with CHUCK LORRE & LEE ARONSOHN on "Two And A Half Men."

Charlie Sheen sodomized Corey Haim at 13 on set of Lucas | Daily Mail Online

Are you sure it isn't the extraterrestrials? Surely they're the real villains here.

OccultHawk 11-09-2017 07:25 AM



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