Maury just has paternity tests, but Springer can bring every form of poor trash and make them laugh as he roasts them to their face.

I don't think I've ever watched an episode of either.

How the **** have you avoided them? I don't care how pretentious you are they are both high level entertainment when you're bored in the middle of the day with nothing to do.

When I'm bored in the middle of the day I play music, work on my writing, take my pipe on a hike, sleep, hit up the homies, or dick around online. Also, Netlflix and Youtube and **** exist and my middays are usually pretty booked.

Bruh, watch an episode of Maury. It's like crack. It's the worst thing ever made but it makes a train wreck look like Tchaikovsky in the best way possible. As odd as it is to say, Springer is the same but somehow more comedically refined.

You should know by now that "omg check it out it sucks so bad" isn't a genre that I'm into.

Jackson’s refusal to follow a Supreme Court ruling was more controversial than the mistreatment on Native Americans. Jackson was fantastic at selling anything as humanitarian. There was a kernel of truth in the argument that leaving the Cherokee in Georgia was indeed a de facto death sentence. The typical mostly apolitical white person was either indifferent or vaguely in favor of measures that made them less likely to encounter dangerous Indians. Even though it was a different time and place hysteria over events like the Enoch Brown school massacre still reverberated. And it wasn’t like today where people actually saw footage of what was really going on.

It's not that it sucks so bad, it's that it exposes the most embarrassing parts of society in a way that's hilarious rather than depressing. It's unintentionally artistic in how devoid of artistic merit it is. But I suppose I'm touching on the ICP argument again.

I lived in the Central Valley for a few years. I already know.

I don't think you do. You sound like TH trying not to listen to hip hop.

I gather that you're not very familiar with the area.

No, but I've worked fast food for years and still don't appreciate what goes on at Maury. And I've seen the revolving door of pregnancies.

The Central Valley is California's Florida.

Remember when Jackson and his pet banks destroyed the economy? Or when he streamlined and solidified the modern bipartisan lockdown, because plebs are easier to control when you restrict them to two choices and crank up the 'us versus them'?

Oh, that little rascal. What a card.

Our pain is all our own.

San Francisco (CNN)Since Sunday, federal immigration agents in Northern California have arrested over 150 people alleged to have violated immigration laws, the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Tuesday. Half of them had criminal convictions, according to the agency.

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^ What's happening on various fronts in the US is pretty depressing, and I suspect is being under-reported. The mainstrean media has the bad habit, imo, of chasing after every one of Trump's immoderate tweets or empty pronouncements like a gaggle of squawking chickens after a handful of grain. I think we've established by now that Trump is a lying blowhard, so isn't it time to hear more about what's actually happening in the US instead?

What ICE is doing, that controvertial pipeline, progress on wall construction are a couple of issues we don't hear much about. I wonder about the gutting of the EPA, the lack of ambassadors and other officials too. I'm surprised we're not hearing more about the effects of these shortfalls, etc.

Church

Apparently there's a horsefucker on the loose in our region.

Disgusting

Billy Graham lies in honor in US Capitol: History - Business Insider

At least he’s dead.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ju...ons-15646.html

Organized labor has become so cowardly I’m not sure it even matters.

Wahh I don't want to pay a corporation to team up with my boss to stagnate my wages that will then sue me if I accuse them of doing an inadequate job doing what I'm carving out a chunk of my paycheck for.

Unions work well in small numbers and on a theoretical level, but they're far too privvy to bureaucratization and preserving their own interests over what they exist for.

Have you ever paid union dues? Have you ever been part of a labor dispute? Have you ever put your ass on the line over a labor issue?

**** yes, easy answers are the best answers.

In my view, the way some of the horses canter around these days in skimpy bridles, they're just asking for it.

No doubt. Labor needs an organized RADICAL voice. But wait until you’re a member and it turns out you have no ****ing say and your union reps are so intertwined with your bosses and bureaucratic administration that instead of protecting you you’re paying dues to people who are out eating expensive meals with your bosses while you’re getting ****ed by the union itself.

The union I paid dues actually fired first year teachers who had problems. The school board didn’t fire them. I want you to hear this ****ing clearly so you can think about how incredibly non-adversarial the relationship between administration on the union was. The union actually fired the teachers. I’m not ****ting you, I don’t have it wrong.

Join a union and try to be a strong voice labor and THEY WILL HAVE YOU FIRED.

Lol I was referring to the violation of the establishment clause but fair enough.

I respect that.

The teacher’s union in Florida left me pretty ****ing bitter with good reason.

Yes we need organized labor but but the unions haven’t had a nutsac for several decades.

Cool movie from the late 70s that highlights some of the sleazy aspects of unions (automobile) pretty good.

Blue Collar with Richard Pryor, Yaphet Kotto, and Harvey Keitel.

The UAW was taking bribes from Chrysler and was in on using corrupt distorted interpretations of bankruptcy laws and negotiating **** contracts in crazy legalese to cheat lifetime employees out of their retirement benefits. The retirees are still ****ed and the high level union reps, lawyers, and CEOs are still living large.

The unions are just another hierarchy.

**** the employer

****in true

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Apparently cutting benefits to a special group is virtue signalling but providing them in the first place is not.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

evil >>>>> evil

Come to think of it it's not so much a lesser of two evils situation, it's more of an enemy of my enemy is my friend situation. Like saying that Donald Trump tried to silence Steve Bannon, therefore Steve Bannon is pretty alright in my book.

I've already explained to you at length why the lesser of two evils is so dumb so I'll just leave you to fetishize your evil.

How do you feel about corporate cronies masquerading as collective bargainers?

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I’d say we agree that labor needs an organized voice and unions need to be strong and ethical (purely on the side of labor)

It’s been too long since I’ve studied labor history but I have read a fair amount. Miners, bus drivers, trash collectors, hotel and restaurant workers, even teachers, all had a time where they fought with sincerity and relatively limited corruption.

The difference between then and now is that these days civil disobedience is officially off the table by union by-laws. It’s become strictly a matter of legislation. Unions, at their best, support political campaigns and lobby for legislation but will not support the grassroots rough and tumble methods that brought about the labor reform we enjoy today. Radical labor activists are methodically weeded out by their own so-called union.

Is there anything about my assessment of the current situation that you disagree with?

Unprecedented. :p:

- Rob Porter, a powerful White House staffer whose profile has increased in recent months, resigned February 7 after two of his ex-wives accused him of physical and emotional abuse.

- Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald resigned on January 31 after Politico reported that Fitzgerald purchased stock in Japan Tobacco while serving as CDC director.

- FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe was forced to step down on January 30, after FBI Director Christopher Wray raised concerns about an upcoming Justice Department inspector general report examining McCabe's and other senior officials' actions during the 2016 presidential campaign.

- Omarosa Manigault, the director of communications for the White House's Office of Public Liaison, had her official last day on January 20.

- Trump fired Derek Harvey, his top Middle East advisor for the National Security Counsel.

- The secretary of health and human services had elicited bipartisan condemnation over the cost of his air travel. Tom Price had cost taxpayers more than $1 million between his use of private planes for domestic travel and military jets for recent trips to Africa, Europe, and Asia, Politico reported.

- White House official confirmed Sebastian Gorka's departure from the Trump administration on August 25. The former Breitbart News staffer and ally of chief strategist Steve Bannon served as a deputy assistant to President Donald Trump.

- White House officials confirmed that Trump had dismissed Steve Bannon, his chief strategist, on August 18 after reports of clashes between Bannon and other members of the White House reached a fever pitch in recent days.

- Anthony Scaramucci was hired as the White House communications director and then dismissed in less than two weeks. The decision came at the urging of John Kelly, the new White House chief of staff, according to a Times report.

- Reince Priebus resigned as White House chief of staff six months into his tenure after a public feud with Scaramucci.

- Sean Spicer, the embattled White House press secretary, resigned on July 21 after telling Trump he vehemently disagreed with the selection of Scaramucci as White House communications director.

- Michael Dubke resigned as the White House communications director in May. Dubke was replaced by Scaramucci, the founder of a hedge fund and a top Trump donor.

- Walter Shaub resigned as the director of the Office of Government Ethics in July after clashing with the White House over Trump's complicated financial holdings.

- Trump fired James Comey as FBI director in May. At the time of his firing, Comey was handling the bureau's investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to meddle in the 2016 election, creating a firestorm of controversy for the Trump administration.

- Michael Flynn resigned in February after serving as national security adviser for less than a month. Flynn had misled Vice President Mike Pence and other administration officials about what he and Sergey Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the US, talked about in phone conversations during the transition.

- Trump fired Sally Yates, an appointee of President Barack Obama, as acting attorney general within his first 10 days in office. Yates had refused to uphold Trump's executive order on immigration and denounced it as unlawful.

- Trump fired Preet Bharara as the US attorney for the Southern District of Manhattan in March after he refused to submit his resignation to Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

- Katie Walsh, the former deputy chief of staff and close ally of Priebus, left the White House after nine weeks.

- And now Hope Hicks, one of Trump's closest senior advisor Hope Hicks resigns one day after admitting to the house committee that she sometimes told lies on Trump's behalf.

- And let's not forget poor Jared. He's had all of his big toys taken away and is no longer in allowed in Presidential briefings. On the outside looking in.

- And Ivanka is in the Chief of Staff's doghouse and might be losing her top secret security clearance.

All in just 13 months. Being an employee of James Gotti looks like it was a safer work environment by contrast.

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Ahem.

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Not to mention all the really good hip-hop I've listened to in my Albums of 2017 thread.

This would make more sense and be more accurate:

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