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Old 02-16-2020, 04:36 PM   #20441 (permalink)
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Uh yeah I'd say it's way more a byproduct of traditional human mating practices and all that that encompasses, which predates liberalism by quite a few million years.
So, Jeffrey Epstein?
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Old 02-16-2020, 04:40 PM   #20442 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2020, 04:46 PM   #20443 (permalink)
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So, Jeffrey Epstein?
I'd say the modern moral cluster **** of adults ****ing teenagers would say that the issue is in no way black and white or settled. But I would definitely say that a rich predator who uses his vast resources to cover up abusing people who make it clear that they were not hip to his jive falls into the "bad" category.
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I was told at university nearly a decade ago that orientation was a vast spectrum where all forms of behavior and expression were acceptable, and to say otherwise made you a bigot. Were my professors lying or simply misguided? I guess I'll never know.

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I'd say the modern moral cluster **** of adults ****ing teenagers would say that the issue is in no way black and white or settled. But I would definitely say that a rich predator who uses his vast resources to cover up abusing people who make it clear that they were not hip to his jive falls into the "bad" category.
But by your definition he'd be some kind of apex predator if those tendencies really do go back millions of years. So the question is: are those tendencies an orientation or is it something like an illness or condition that could have been treated via counseling? I read his bio: he was an English teacher or something long before he became rich.
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I was told at university nearly a decade ago that orientation was a vast spectrum where all forms of behavior and expression were acceptable, and to say otherwise made you a bigot. Were my professors lying or simply misguided? I guess I'll never know.
I imagine that "rapist", whether it ever ends up being recognized as an orientation or not, will never be snowflaked into legality.
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But by your definition he'd be some kind of apex predator if those tendencies really do go back millions of years.
And? Instincts hold on but modern morality changes.
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more like are you being willfully obtuse

or do you not understand that the issue is about consent
What do you think the minimum age should be where someone can be legally allowed to give consent?
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His point might be a ****ty logical phallacy but I'm fairly sure Nambla calls themselves liberal.
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His point might be a ****ty logical fallacy but I'm fairly sure Nambla calls themselves liberal.
We aren't talking about a phallus here.
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When life expectancy was a lot lower, it was more common in general for men and women to get together and even have kids in their early to mid teens. Vestiges of that have carried over in the present day, which is why you see such a wide variation across multiple countries in regards to "legal" age.

That being said, there are also advocates out there who think that being attracted to children or young teens in a completely natural orientation in the modern era and should be accepted as such by the rest of society. It's a byproduct of liberal thought.
Dunno about this tbh... People were marrying 13 year old broads very recently in this country and others. Actual life expectancy isn't that different when you factor out infant and childhood mortality. We're just extending childhood in a number of ways.
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