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Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 09:12 PM

Jump in a Pizza Hut dumpster and check out all the scarcity.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114504)
the world can't afford petty consumerism like Starbucks or whatever, but it absolutely can support the vital things in life for everyone with enough left over for Art and Booze

I’m a little bit uncomfortable with the whole not letting the other animals live thing.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 09:17 PM

That can change.

Anteater 04-24-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114503)
the scarcity is an illusion

up to 70-80% of global wealth is in the hands of less than 10% of the population, and that's a generous estimate

Scarcity is not an illusion. It isn't just about food and waste in our supply chains. It's about all the little gears and details that keep a society at scale functioning. We need robot labor instead of cheap human labor, way higher energy efficiency and a whole host of other things. We also need technology that lets us desalinate water in a scalable fashion that doesn't need massive labor forces to oversee. We need the capabilities to grow fresh fruits, vegetables, etc. in easily set up, conditioned environments that could be set up in inhospitable territories where soil quality doesn't matter, and and you shouldn't need to be a trained specialist to set any of it up if you had to.

If you meet some of what I'm talking about above, then you can dismantle capitalism in an empathetic manner that only kills / undermines the rich.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 09:20 PM

So you're saying a scarcity in skills?

Anteater 04-24-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2114509)
So you're saying a scarcity in skills?

Scarcity in skills, resources, water, etc. etc. Like I said, the concept of scarcity applies to more than a Pizza Hut dumpster or a meat packing facility.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 09:30 PM

Elph has a scarcity of my penis in his mouth. I think it's about time I feed the hungry.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114513)
is this off your latest diss track

No it's from my diary.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 09:36 PM

How many ****ing people would it take for them to realize it’s way too many goddamn people?

Anteater 04-24-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114511)
scarcity is caused by inequality at this moment in history

tech advances have only been and will only be used to increase inequality even when they do improve the average quality of life until it reaches a breaking point

Yeah but you'll never see a society where inequality can be eliminated without some of what I've listed. The status quo needs to change in some way where human labor itself is an issue that's not even on the table. Only in a world where robots are efficient and can do the most repetitive things can people just pursue the things they want to do.

Even in a society that was more communal in some way, I don't see people throwing away their desire for convenience. Like, ever. Nobody wants to be stuck farming all day or "doing their part" for the community or hunting. They'll want to research, do music, be artistic, or just explore freely without worrying about food supply, water supply, transportation, etc. Therefore, we need robots.


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