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Old 03-14-2021, 09:33 AM   #22771 (permalink)
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That's accurate! I was gonna marry a Spaniard to move up in the world but now it turns out he's just another dirty southerner! Gonna have to rethink my strategy. Dumb Slav.
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Old 03-14-2021, 09:38 AM   #22772 (permalink)
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I think it is a step up for fascists tbh.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 03-14-2021, 09:46 AM   #22773 (permalink)
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Ok, sure, and if you'd have formulated your original statement to say "some right wing Northern European nutters discriminate against Southern Europeans", I wouldn't have objected, otherwise it seemed you were saying most Northern Europeans discriminate against Southern Europeans or that such discrimination or attitude is widespread which I think isn't the case.



Sure, some people may travel to places whose inhabitants they dislike, but I would say most people travel to Southern Europe and especially Spain not just for the sunshine and the beaches but for the culture and the people.



Yup, absolutely aware of that. But our discussion is limited to West North vs. West South of Europe, which have very similar culture (in a global context), Christian, predominantly white etc. Your statement above basically confirms that the main reason for discrimination towards the South by the North is economic.

Same issue exists on a more regional basis, inside Spain, Italy, even Croatia, the developed north discriminates against and looks down on the less developed south.

But coming back to the original point, OH, who is Irish and not British, was not discriminating against the Spanish and this is not a common thing in Europe. In my opinion and personal experience. Certainly not anything comparable to the racism Latinos experience in the U.S., which I think is what Charles thinks is happening. Spaniards=/=Latinos.
The discrimination against Southern Europe that I described is just as widespread as the more severe kinds of racism. I agree that it's not camparable to what Latinos have to deal with though, and that in this case the origin is strongly economic.
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Old 03-14-2021, 11:33 AM   #22774 (permalink)
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I have relatives on my italian side that are among the most racist people in my family... Probably self conscious about that slight amount of Moor blood in their veins.
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Old 03-14-2021, 11:41 AM   #22775 (permalink)
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I'm no expert, but here I have never heard anyone complain about Spaniards. In summer (well, before Covid) we get thousands of Spanish students coming over on exchange trips and holidays. They're usually loud, hyper and very polite, and the women - ooh momma! They tend to fill up the buses - like maybe forty of them get on at one stop - and we grumble about that, but otherwise we have no beef with them. I've never seen an Irish person frown at a jabbering, excitable Spanish girl or boy. They always seem to be welcome here.

And yes, as adiddas said, I only used the name Jose to show the sub was Spanish, which it was. No racism intended, despite the fact that Batty will insist I am racist, which is in itself racist. Had it been a German sub I would have said Fritz or Wolf or something, Irish it would have been Paddy or Mick etc etc. The point was, they were high. This is not a state of being exclusive to any country, culture, race or creed or gender.

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Old 03-14-2021, 11:46 AM   #22776 (permalink)
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What name would you have used if they were black?
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Old 03-14-2021, 12:10 PM   #22777 (permalink)
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Old 03-14-2021, 03:52 PM   #22778 (permalink)
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I probably would have said "brother" or "nigga", since they'd be talking to each other. Wow you guys really know how to micro-manage and tear apart a humorous post, dont'cha?
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Old 03-14-2021, 04:28 PM   #22779 (permalink)
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I probably would have said "brother" or "nigga", since they'd be talking to each other. Wow you guys really know how to micro-manage and tear apart a humorous post, dont'cha?
I don't think you're racist th I'm just having fun at your expense. What would you say if they were Jewish?
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