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Anteater 06-07-2018 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959814)
I can’t believe she said ******.

She should be in jail if she isn't already.

grindy 06-07-2018 11:24 PM

But not in ****** jail, that'd be a bit harsh.

OccultHawk 06-07-2018 11:33 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...anada-44400441

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A grandmother jailed for over 20 years on a non-violent drug charge has thanked US President Donald Trump for granting her clemency.

Alice Johnson, 63, said Mr Trump had given her another chance in life and restored her to her family.

Kim Kardashian West had lobbied for her release, meeting the president last week.
Facts

1) Clinton and Obama let this lady rot in prison but Trump set her free
2) Kardashian has over 100 M followers on social media
3) The same minorities that were uninspired to vote last time are going to go on feeling the same ****ing way because the Democrats have no style

I hate Trump but I love that he’s exposing democracy for what it is.

Lucem Ferre 06-08-2018 12:17 AM

I applaud both the Kardashian and Trump for it.

Now if only somebody could do something about Flint's water problem.

DwnWthVwls 06-08-2018 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959790)
Because you can’t see that public shaming is more immoral than having a meltdown. It feels great to cast stones.

Not sure if youre trying to justify a racist rant or avoid owning your screw ups. Holding people like this accountable is a good thing. Even if she wasnt racist theres really no excuse for an adult to act like that. Soory i dont have time for bull****.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959777)
Intentionally ruining her life is a complete bitch move. **** public shaming. Orwellian bull****.

Guy with Dixie avatar defends racist: film at eleven.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 06:42 AM

Getting all indignant over somebody’s meltdown is modern day god squading

You enjoy hating her and shaming her because it’s visceral and fun

But it’s not righteous it’s immoral

It’s immoral to “hold someone accountable” five years after the incident

What if your worst five minutes was on youtube going viral for years? Bitches doing commentary on it like it’s a real news story. Someone called a ****** years ago film running constantly

Do you really think taking another piss on this lady puts you on the right side?

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He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother

Frownland 06-08-2018 06:54 AM

Boo boo you can't go on racist tirades like in the good ole days. Get over it.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959886)
Getting all indignant over somebody’s meltdown is modern day god squading

You enjoy hating her and shaming her because it’s visceral and fun

But it’s not righteous it’s immoral

It’s immoral to “hold someone accountable” five years after the incident

What if your worst five minutes was on youtube going viral for years? Bitches doing commentary on it like it’s a real news story. Someone called a ****** years ago film running constantly

Do you really think taking another piss on this lady puts you on the right side?

Are you talking to me? I'm not defending public shaming, but at the same time I sure as shit am not going to defend racism.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959890)
Are you talking to me? I'm not defending public shaming, but at the same time I sure as shit am not going to defend racism.

You’re a good boy, aren’t you? Congratulations on being against the bogeyman.

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Boo boo you can't go on racist tirades like in the good ole days. Get over it.
Boo hoo you’re getting called out on your holier than thou puritanicalism. Get over it thought police wannabe.

Frownland 06-08-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959902)
Boo hoo you’re getting called out on your holier than thou puritanicalism. Get over it thought police wannabe.

I am better than people whose "bad moments" are racist tirades, thanks for noticing. There are much better examples for your crusade than someone facing repurcussions for harassing a stranger.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1959905)
I am better than people whose "bad moments" are racist tirades, thanks for noticing. There are much better examples for your crusade than someone facing repurcussions for harassing a stranger.

No you’re not. You’re the bitch who patted himself on the back for throwing a rock at a prostitute.

Frownland 06-08-2018 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959907)
No you’re not. You’re the bitch who patted himself on the back for throwing a rock at a prostitute.

Agree to disagree I suppose. Are you patting yourself on the back for defending that pooor woman?

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1959908)
Agree to disagree I suppose. Are you patting yourself on the back for defending that pooor woman?

I’m patting myself on the back for always being one of the first to see when the masses are wrong. The people who put people on blast for a modern day racist tirade are the same people who would have been in the lynch mobs stringing up blacks during reconstruction. It’s not about racism. It’s about being a group thinking dip ****. And yeah I’ll defend that lady. People should quit recycling that video. That ****ing dude wasn’t hurt at all. All that happened was words.

Frownland 06-08-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959910)
I’m patting myself on the back for always being one of the first to see when the masses are wrong. The people who put people on blast for a modern day racist tirade are the same people who would have been in the lynch mobs stringing up blacks during reconstruction. It’s not about racism. It’s about being a group thinking dip ****. And yeah I’ll defend that lady. People should quit recycling that video. That ****ing dude wasn’t hurt at all. All that happened was words.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1959905)
There are much better examples for your crusade than someone facing repurcussions for harassing a stranger.

Don't break an arm jerking yourself off.

Oriphiel 06-08-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959907)
You’re the bitch who patted himself on the back for throwing a rock at a prostitute.

https://i.imgur.com/IMelujf.jpg

Janszoon 06-08-2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959902)
You’re a good boy, aren’t you? Congratulations on being against the bogeyman.

Comparing racism to an imaginary childhood monster seems pretty silly. Do you actually think it doesn't exist or what?

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1959912)
Don't break an arm jerking yourself off.

Watch your rotator cuff.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959915)
Comparing racism to an imaginary childhood monster seems pretty silly. Do you actually think it doesn't exist or what?

It’s a spook.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959927)
It’s a spook.

Wow, insightful. Edgy.

The Batlord 06-08-2018 10:45 AM

I mean OH is kinda right in a way at least. If this kind of public shaming keeps people from doing this kind of **** then it's not because they've become better people but because people are now scared of their fellow citizens surveilling them the same as they should be scared of the government spying on them. It might not be as Orwellian as OH is blowing it up to be, but watching these videos seems more like the mentality of watching reality TV than anything noble.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959935)
I mean OH is kinda right in a way at least. If this kind of public shaming keeps people from doing this kind of **** then it's not because they've become better people but because people are now scared of their fellow citizens surveilling them the same as they should be scared of the government spying on them. It might not be as Orwellian as OH is blowing it up to be, but watching these videos seems more like the mentality of watching reality TV than anything noble.

He's right in the sense that public shaming often ends up being disproportionately harsh. There's even a great book about it. He's just a bad advocate because he's constantly cheerleading racism.

The Batlord 06-08-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959940)
He's right in the sense that public shaming often ends up being disproportionately harsh. There's even a great book about it. He's just a bad advocate because he's constantly cheerleading racism.

Isn't that an ad hominem? Yeah he's a racist twat but I don't think anyone who's familiar with his constant rants about everything under the sun thinks he'd only be saying this to defend his fellow skinheads.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959945)
Isn't that an ad hominem? Yeah he's a racist twat but I don't think anyone who's familiar with his constant rants about everything under the sun thinks he'd only be saying this to defend his fellow skinheads.

What I'm saying is he's poisoning his own well.

The Batlord 06-08-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959953)
What I'm saying is he's poisoning his own well.

He might not be the best spokesmen for his cause but that's kind of the point. If he's right then whether or not that woman is a **** this is still a phenomenon that doesn't warrant anyone's time unless you're just enjoying it as TV. If we only stand up for people we like then are we not just a lynch mob?

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959954)
He might not be the best spokesmen for his cause but that's kind of the point. If he's right then whether or not that woman is a **** this is still a phenomenon that doesn't warrant anyone's time unless you're just enjoying it as TV. If we only stand up for people we like then are we not just a lynch mob?

Steady mobbin


Janszoon 06-08-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959954)
He might not be the best spokesmen for his cause but that's kind of the point. If he's right then whether or not that woman is a **** this is still a phenomenon that doesn't warrant anyone's time unless you're just enjoying it as TV. If we only stand up for people we like then are we not just a lynch mob?

I would say, like most things, it's not an either/or issue.

The Batlord 06-08-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959960)
I would say, like most things, it's not an either/or issue.

Yeah, but just watching one of these videos and casting judgement along with twenty other people on an internet forum or news site comment section is just ego stroking so we can feel like pseudo-activists the same as updating your Facebook status for Koney2012.

I've watched plenty of these videos myself and thought or even commented on what a **** this or that person is, but with the constant click bait nature of these shaming videos it's become a sort of loose, worthless subculture that could cease to exist without the world being any worse off.

If anything I'd say the real story is that so many people's "shock and disappointment" show that they are willfully ignorant of these kinds of shamed asshats. Do we really need to be told that people who shout "Nigger!!!" at black strangers are still a thing in 2018?

Janszoon 06-08-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959966)
Yeah, but just watching one of these videos and casting judgement along with twenty other people on an internet forum or news site comment section is just ego stroking so we can feel like pseudo-activists the same as updating your Facebook status for Koney2012.

I've watched plenty of these videos myself and thought or even commented on what a **** this or that person is, but with the constant click bait nature of these shaming videos it's become a sort of loose, worthless subculture that could cease to exist without the world being any worse off.

If anything I'd say the real story is that so many people's "shock and disappointment" show that they are willfully ignorant of these kinds of shamed asshats. Do we really need to be told that people who shout "Nigger!!!" at black strangers are still a thing in 2018?

Sure, that's why I didn't watch the video in the first place. What I'm more concerned about with regards to MB is casual racism slipping by without comment from anyone.

Cuthbert 06-08-2018 12:08 PM

Which casual racism?

The Batlord 06-08-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959977)
Sure, that's why I didn't watch the video in the first place. What I'm more concerned about with regards to MB is casual racism slipping by without comment from anyone.

Fair.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1959979)
Which casual racism?

Any casual racism.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959980)
Fair.

If you had to choose one race of people to be banned from Burger King which would choose?

Janszoon 06-08-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959983)
If you had to choose one race of people to be banned from Burger King which would choose?

Hawk people.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1959981)
Any casual racism.

I’ll keep it formal.

Janszoon 06-08-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959985)
I’ll keep it formal.

And you'll get a formal response.

The Batlord 06-08-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959983)
If you had to choose one race of people to be banned from Burger King which would choose?

Definitely not black people. They're way more fun than crackers. So white people I guess. I was just told today that I'm blacker than anyone else at the store even though I'm the palest employee so I don't count.

Exo 06-08-2018 12:28 PM

This should be a fun read when I get back from work.

OccultHawk 06-08-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959992)
Definitely not black people. They're way more fun than crackers. So white people I guess.

Unfortunately, yeah, white people suck the most, especially as co-workers

The Batlord 06-08-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1959994)
Unfortunately, yeah, white people suck the most, especially as co-workers

They actually take work seriously and believe it's a stepping stone to greater economic and social prosperity. Black people have been kept down for so long that even if they keep their heads down to collect a check they never buy into the company propaganda and keep **** light and fun. Corporate propaganda is simply too white for black people to take seriously. And the ones who do are always the whitest.


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