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Chula Vista 06-10-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1960862)
**** man my warehouse job gives me health insurance

There's insurance and then there's insurance. I get full vision, dental, health, prescriptions, and disability. The bill for my recent hospital stay was over $16K. Cost me only $300 out of pocket. Less than 2%.

Because we're only 3 employees we can afford to pay for the really top shelf stuff.

But ya, my company is **** because you say so.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960863)
Yes. Yes you are. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Birds of a feather in fact. I have a suggestion for you both since everything sucks so badly for you.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5Q4GDOdmjY7Bu/source.gif

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1946713)
My kids are both out on their own, (34 and 29) so I've been flying solo for the past 3 months, and really loving it (sans the two week blind binge that led to the 5150).

I’m down with the suicide jokes homie

Frownland 06-10-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960859)
Like you know anything about it. That **** company continues to pay my bills, my health insurance, and for my cell phone. With 38 employees we were making 8 million a year in sales. With 3 we're already at 800K for 2018. And we practically have zero overhead now since we all work from home.

In most ways we're doing better today than 4 years ago.

Whoa is you.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960866)
There's insurance and then there's insurance. I get full vision, dental, health, prescriptions, and disability. The bill for my recent hospital stay was over $16K. Cost me only $300 out of pocket. Less than 2%.

Because we're only 3 employees we can afford to pay for the really top shelf stuff.

But ya, my company is **** because you say so.

Oh wait now I'm super jealous. I pity you jealously.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1960854)
says a lot about how **** that company is

It's amazing that if the company was a person you'd blame everything under the sun for their failure. When's the last time you considered how shit the people are?

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 07:14 PM

DWV: Please clarify what you mean by that post. It's not clear to me.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 07:22 PM

Just rehashing the same **** I say every time elph and OH start in. Your company is "shit" because it failed/downsized/ran into hard times, but when any person in the US fails they blame everything but that person's choices. Curious when they're going to lose their bias and consider people who fail as shit...

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1960878)
Just rehashing the same **** I say every time elph and OH start in. Your company is "shit" because it failed/downsized/ran into hard times, but when any person in the US fails they blame everything but that person's choices. Curious when he's going to lose his bias and consider people who fail as shit...

You live in a prison and don’t even realize it. We also live in a prison but we can imagine a world that isn’t a prison. You’re blind and you laugh at those who can see.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 07:31 PM

I'm well aware... but that is the reality I have to face. So I find myself with 2 choices:

Find happiness with what I'm given and/or work to change the problems I see with the world. I approach this dilemma with a mix of the two. You bitch and wither away. I'll take my prison over your pathetic existence any day.

"Be the change that you want to see" - Gandhi.. nothing else you can do.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1960882)
I'm well aware... but that is the reality I have to face. So I find myself with 2 choices:

Find happiness with what I'm given or work to change the problems I see with the world. I approach this dilemma with a mix of the two. You bitch and wither away. I'll take my prison over your pathetic existence any day.

"Be the change that you want to see" - Gandhi.. nothing else you can do.

A Ghandi quote plastered in middle schools across America

http://www.okclipart.com/img67/sayxztfszfpcquzhdska.jpg

No, you can’t see the prison.

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1960878)
Just rehashing the same **** I say every time elph and OH start in. Your company is "shit" because it failed/downsized/ran into hard times, but when any person in the US fails they blame everything but that person's choices. Curious when they're going to lose their bias and consider people who fail as shit...

Got it. Thanks.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 07:46 PM

So you can mock the quote and tell me what I believe, but you still havent addressed what it is we are supposed to do about the "prison problem". Unless you think being a lowlife who complains about the worlds problems on a shithole music forum is what we should all strive for.

Frownland 06-10-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1960885)
So you can mock the quote and tell me what I believe, but you still havent addressed what it is we are supposed to do about the "prison problem". Unless you think being a lowlife who complains about the worlds problems on a shithole music forum is what we should all strive for.

Ad hominem is so boring.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1960885)
So you can mock the quote and tell me what I believe, but you still havent addressed what it is we are supposed to do about the "prison problem". Unless you think being a lowlife who complains about the worlds problems on a shithole music forum is what we should all strive for.

Since your field is forestry iirc, in your case you should strive to understand the basics of environmental biology.

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960883)
No, you can’t see the prison.

I can see it just like DMV but choose to do the best to succeed in it and change in little ways when I can.

People like you and Elpth just want to bitch and moan about everything, and hope that your utopia eventually comes to pass is some unicorn sort of way. Cool man. Cool.

But your constant dissing on and ****ting on those who don't see the world through your crass, myopic, and insulting (to others) viewpoints is way beyond old. I had some success so you feel the need to **** on me. And then your new pet Elph comes in and does the same. Stop being such dicks to others because they choose to plow forward as best as they can under the circumstances, while you choose to mope and ****ing bitch, while pissing on the rest of us.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 07:58 PM

I actually work as a GIS Analyst now. Sick redirection skills.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1960887)
Ad hominem is so boring.

It's not ad hominem if it's intended to be an insult and not an argument for a position.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 08:31 PM

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I had some success so you feel the need to **** on me
I don’t think you’ve had success. I think you’re a bitter as hell mean drunk weakling. I think you’re alone because you’re an ******* and you’re an ******* because you’re a failure. You’re an emotional failure. A nice guy when he’s sober in the morning and by far the most vile and angry poster once the sauce kicks in. Over and over again you’ve encouraged others to kill themselves and you go to straight to the extreme like an erratic drunk. After 40 years your wife just rolls no goodbye. That **** doesn’t just happen. Like everyone on here has seen your cantankerousness. Then you’re suddenly Mr. Sunshine again. People want to be free of you and by people I mean your family. But you blackmail them into forced interaction feigning ridiculous health concerns and posting horrible **** on Facebook. Constantly judgmental and maudlin and sentimental and angry and dishing it out but not taking it. There’s volumes of ridicule on here targeted directly at you because you bring it on yourself with your repugnant ways everyone in your personal sphere has rejected.

The Batlord 06-10-2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960900)
I don’t think you’ve had success. I think you’re a bitter as hell mean drunk weakling. I think you’re alone because you’re an ******* and you’re an ******* because you’re a failure. You’re an emotional failure. A nice guy when he’s sober in the morning and by far the most vile and angry poster once the sauce kicks in. Over and over again you’ve encouraged others to kill themselves and you go to straight to the extreme like an erratic drunk. After 40 years your wife just rolls no goodbye. That **** doesn’t just happen. Like everyone on here has seen your cantankerousness. Then you’re suddenly Mr. Sunshine again. People want to be free of you and by people I mean your family. But you blackmail them into forced interaction feigning ridiculous health concerns and posting horrible **** on Facebook. Constantly judgmental and maudlin and sentimental and angry and dishing it out but not taking it. There’s volumes of ridicule on here targeted directly at you because you bring it on yourself with your repugnant ways everyone in your personal sphere has rejected.

God... damn...

The Batlord 06-10-2018 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960866)
There's insurance and then there's insurance. I get full vision, dental, health, prescriptions, and disability. The bill for my recent hospital stay was over $16K. Cost me only $300 out of pocket. Less than 2%.

Because we're only 3 employees we can afford to pay for the really top shelf stuff.

But ya, my company is **** because you say so.

So because you "worked your ass off" you deserve to be able to have a complete mental breakdown and be forcibly admitted to an institution, whereas plenty of other people would just become homeless.

I assume that's what all your insurance ego stroking is about?

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960900)
I don’t think you’ve had success. I think you’re a bitter as hell mean drunk weakling. I think you’re alone because you’re an ******* and you’re an ******* because you’re a failure. You’re an emotional failure. A nice guy when he’s sober in the morning and by far the most vile and angry poster once the sauce kicks in. Over and over again you’ve encouraged others to kill themselves and you go to straight to the extreme like an erratic drunk. After 40 years your wife just rolls no goodbye. That **** doesn’t just happen. Like everyone on here has seen your cantankerousness. Then you’re suddenly Mr. Sunshine again. People want to be free of you and by people I mean your family. But you blackmail them into forced interaction feigning ridiculous health concerns and posting horrible **** on Facebook. Constantly judgmental and maudlin and sentimental and angry and dishing it out but not taking it. There’s volumes of ridicule on here targeted directly at you because you bring it on yourself with your repugnant ways everyone in your personal sphere has rejected.

and still more likable than you :(

As usual a whole lot of assumptions.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960902)
God... damn...

Oh I’m sure he’s hitting that report tab and PMing every mod and whatever else little bitches do.

Vowels - I smoked your ass in an argument you insisted on having. Get over it.

DwnWthVwls 06-10-2018 09:05 PM

That's typically what most people think when they argue for a position.

Not even sure what youre talking about, but okay.

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960900)
I make **** up over things I have really no insight into other than a few rambling posts on a forum. Which of course I take to define another human being completely.

Feel better? There is so much BS in this post it's ridiculous. You haven't a ****ing clue. I'm happy where I'm at and you are simply a miserable, miserable, man. Stop taking about my wife and my family like you know ****. Just stop. You're redefining the meaning of the word prick. Again, you haven't a ****ing clue.

But take another piss on me and my family just to get a small ray of joy into your piss-ant existence. Do you jack off at night while giggling because you think you "got me"?

I'm gonna ride off into the sunset while you sit back in your pathetic world waiting on the unicorns to show up. Don't you have some sweaty landscaping to do 50 year old boy? :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing::laughing:

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960904)
I assume that's what all your insurance ego stroking is about?

I was talking to Elph who was pissing on me and my boss and his wife.

Frownland 06-10-2018 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960922)
But take another piss on me just to get a small ray of sunshine into your piss-ant existence. Do you jack off at night while giggling because you think you "got me"?

Very telling.

Chula Vista 06-10-2018 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1960924)
Very telling.

Very revealing.

Frownland 06-10-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1960925)
Very revealing.

Indeed. Our expectations of human behaviour is largely derived from our own behaviour after all.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1913451)
Back to the real world.

Linda left on 1/2. I spoke with her on 1/8. She pretty much said it's over and that there's nothing that either of us can do to salvage things. I hung up, ran to the bathroom, and threw up.

Little backstory.

As a mother and a father we had to deal with a solid 5 years of a very messed up adult child doing lots of self destructive, and family destructive ****. We fell right into the 'Karpman Drama Triangle' because Mike was so good at playing his mom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle

The fact that she always chose his side of the triangle over mine for so long, even though the dude was ****ing us both over, destroyed the boyfriend/girlfriend aspect of our relationship.

He finally settled down and then all of the work **** hit the fan. More stress and finacial crap added on top like a frosting.

We were basically only staying together because we weren't in a financial position to do anything else. More roomates than husband and wife. She reached out to her brother in Tucson who offered her free room and board.

She took the plunge and ran away. She didn't even tell the kids. I have no ill will towards her. I completely understand why she had to take a shot of starting over being happy. (I haven't been happy for years either)

We've been keeping touch via IM and it's been very civil and caring. We'd both would still kill or die for each other. 38 years together will do that.

But this has to play out with no pressure. It's been less than 2 weeks. What will be, will be.

TL;DR

Life sucks sometimes.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/df...281b8f12bb.jpg

Too bad you don’t have a time machine

But on to the glory years: A Sexless Death Part 2 (The Winnebago)

Lucem Ferre 06-10-2018 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1960887)
Ad hominem is so boring.

And OH's rhetoric of him being blind because he's not a total pessimist is not just as lazy and boring?

It's not like DWV is denying that we're ****ed by our current capitalist system, he's just saying that some people **** themselves over by giving up in the first place.

And I find it completely ironic because they'll **** on the downtrodden just as much as anybody else. Mock people for working fast food or mock people for not having a proper education. Like, oh, wow, you recognize that this system ****s us over but you lack the self awareness to realize that both of ya'll are cogs in the machine.

At least I can respect Elph because he seems to be trying rather than just bitching. But at what point has OH's overwhelming sense of pessimism kept him where he's at? He seems to get pissy at anybody trying to enjoy what little they have as if they're supposed to be as miserable as him. It's as if everything he said about that 'oh, damn!' post about Chula is filled with a lot of projection because the only difference between these two bitter old men is that OH embraced his misery and is much funnier when dispersing it. Of course many of us are extremely limited in what we can do to better our positions but at what point are people essentially stripping themselves of that power by thrusting the accountability for their own lives at everything but themselves?

MicShazam 06-10-2018 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960900)
I don’t think you’ve had success. I think you’re a bitter as hell mean drunk weakling. I think you’re alone because you’re an ******* and you’re an ******* because you’re a failure. You’re an emotional failure. A nice guy when he’s sober in the morning and by far the most vile and angry poster once the sauce kicks in. Over and over again you’ve encouraged others to kill themselves and you go to straight to the extreme like an erratic drunk. After 40 years your wife just rolls no goodbye. That **** doesn’t just happen. Like everyone on here has seen your cantankerousness. Then you’re suddenly Mr. Sunshine again. People want to be free of you and by people I mean your family. But you blackmail them into forced interaction feigning ridiculous health concerns and posting horrible **** on Facebook. Constantly judgmental and maudlin and sentimental and angry and dishing it out but not taking it. There’s volumes of ridicule on here targeted directly at you because you bring it on yourself with your repugnant ways everyone in your personal sphere has rejected.

Basically a load of unfounded, mean spirited bull****. I'd give you a 14 day cool-down if I had the ban hammer. No hesitation.

OccultHawk 06-10-2018 11:57 PM

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But at what point has OH's overwhelming sense of pessimism kept him where he's at?
Bitch, you’re in Utah.

MicShazam 06-10-2018 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1960926)
Indeed. Our expectations of human behaviour is largely derived from our own behaviour after all.

Not that anyone cares, but there's a great Danish proverb that says exactly this.

"The thief assumes everyone steals".

Lucem Ferre 06-11-2018 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960935)
Basically a load of unfounded, mean spirited bull****. I'd give you a 14 day cool-down if I had the ban hammer. No hesitation.

Give it to them both. Chula does the same ****. It's just easier to go for the throat with a guy that pours his heart out on here all the time.

Lucem Ferre 06-11-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960936)
Bitch, you’re in Utah.

A state that you hardly know **** about as I have already proven.

MicShazam 06-11-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1960938)
Give it to them both. Chula does the same ****. It's just easier to go for the throat with a guy that pours his heart out on here all the time.

I don't agree. I've seen Chula get a little too combative, but usually when he's being knowingly provoked. OH just goes for the jugular for no reason other than he enjoys being a douche.

OccultHawk 06-11-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960935)
Basically a load of unfounded, mean spirited bull****. I'd give you a 14 day cool-down if I had the ban hammer. No hesitation.

It’s mean spirited as ****, no doubt, but everyone who has read the forums will know it’s not unfounded. It’s totally dead on. That’s why you don’t like it. It’s scathing to the bone.

OccultHawk 06-11-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1960939)
A state that you hardly know **** about as I have already proven.

I know it’s Utah. You’re talking about where I’m at. You’re in your 20s and already talking suicide and therapy. Since you started therapy you’re like the Pollyanna horrorcore rapper. In Utah.

MicShazam 06-11-2018 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1960941)
It’s mean spirited as ****, no doubt, but everyone who has read the forums will know it’s not unfounded. It’s totally dead on. That’s why you don’t like it. It’s scathing to the bone.

And I don't see what purpose it serves. Why don't you just count to 10 and keep it under lid instead?

OccultHawk 06-11-2018 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960940)
I don't agree. I've seen Chula get a little too combative, but usually when he's being knowingly provoked. OH just goes for the jugular for no reason other than he enjoys being a douche.

Chula went at me tit for tat. The only difference is I wrecked his ****.

Lucem Ferre 06-11-2018 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960940)
I don't agree. I've seen Chula get a little too combative, but usually when he's being knowingly provoked. OH just goes for the jugular for no reason than he enjoys being a douche.

Chula always thinks he's being provoked. It seems like he's always trying for the jugular he's just not as savage as OH. I think it's obvious that Chula is going through some rough mental problems right now, which isn't an excuse, but more understandable than being a dick for the sake of being a dick. I guess that same understanding should be extended to Kiiii as well, to be fair.


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