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Old 08-09-2016, 11:14 AM   #3951 (permalink)
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Nobody is getting preferential treatment right now, except those who benefit from scholarships.

The rest of that isn't really a counter argument.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:17 AM   #3952 (permalink)
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:24 AM   #3953 (permalink)
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Alright, let's say that we did the whole thing with giving black people free education. I'm not denying that aftereffects of slavery and Jim Crow and segregation and etc have hamstrung the black community to a very real extent, but whereas affirmative action, even if you support it, is at its very core an unfair practice, it does not create so massive a gap of fairness as making whites sign their life away to the student loan Nazis while giving blacks a free pass.

I'm not necessarily against free college education for all, assuming it can be made workable, but if you start with blacks then where is the end game? Do they get free education for the rest of eternity? Does one generation just get the shaft when the government decides that the policy has outlived its usefulness? Do the rest of us all of a sudden start getting education for free once there's at least a reasonable amount of equality?

I'm honestly not dead set against the idea, as like I said, the last four hundred years have dug a hole that black people are still trying to dig out of, but free education just for blacks just sounds like possibly a terrible idea.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:33 AM   #3954 (permalink)
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It stops when all of the white people are either in chains or dead.

I don't think it should be based on race. I also think that calling it "free college" is incredibly misleading. Do you consider police, roads, and government services like the DMV to be free too? Because they are not.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:38 AM   #3955 (permalink)
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It stops when all of the white people are either in chains or dead.

I don't think it should be based on race. I also think that calling it "free college" is incredibly misleading. Do you consider police, roads, and government services like the DMV to be free too? Because they are not.
Yes, and the government takes money from our checks every single time to keep those up. You can't just go raising taxes all willy nilly and expect nothing bad to happen, especially when you're doing so for a cause that would result in the morons worshipping Trump to all but riot.

Even if it's a good idea it's still politically untenable.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:39 AM   #3956 (permalink)
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We could easily direct some of the money from our bloated military budget and be fine.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:44 AM   #3957 (permalink)
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We could easily direct some of the money from our bloated military budget and be fine.
I'm honestly not so worried about the money issue, though taking money away from "OUR TROOPS" and giving it to those damn niggers isn't going to be a winning platform for anyone looking to win an office in a non-democratic stronghold. So yeah, no matter how well the idea might work, the political climate in America still makes it virtually impossible to push through.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:48 AM   #3958 (permalink)
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To those people I say: tough shit.
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To those people I say: tough shit.
Well that's sort of the rub of politics. Even if the other side are *******s, they're still there and you have to deal with them. Just saying "tough ****" solves nothing.
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Well ja you'll still have to implement whatever you're doing as you tell them "tough shit."
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