Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097432)

I'd much rather have her how me to install a new water heater. I know that's taboo around these parts though.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097322)

Would it?

Socialism is when the government ceases the means of production for redistribution and communism is when the people share the means of production.

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2097323)

you're incredibly naive if you think working is an equal sided agreement for the majority of the people under
capitalism

one side is under the threat of starvation and homelessness, the other side simply isn't

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2097440)

I can make agreements between a comrade

you need a Contract when you're lubing up to **** someone

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097441)

it's not impossible but more times than not one party has more leverage. It's sorta a hell of a coincidence if both parties have equal leverage.

Look at marriage for example. If you go in without a prenupt the less wealthy party has way more economic leverage in terms of threatening divorce. If you go in with a prenupt the scenario is reversed.

Or even in a relatively l relationship.. one party is often more invested it than the other. They are the one with less leverage in that relationship. I'm sure you can relate.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097442)

Thanks, bud. If you ignore the actual planet and just concentrate on irrelevant comparisons that obfuscate important context it really makes everything make sense.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097429)

did you at least catch the part where vwls said he wants his mom and brother to start dating?

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2097444)

No, but I'll take your word for it.

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2097446)

nice dig at least

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097443)

You can either make an interesting counter argument or I don't care what you have to say about it

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2097449)

I mean I'm kind of with elph on the incest question, if there is no breeding there is less of a problem - but parent/child relationships are 100% always creepy af and there's no way to have real consent in a relationship with such a ****ed up power dynamic. But where would the world be without inbreds? Do you really want to live in a world without the royals and/or pugs?

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097450)

Then make an interesting argument, Ayn Rand.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097439)

^it's hard when my phone's auto correct is probably designed in NK


I know that. Are you of the opinion that capitalism and socialism are the only 2 systems to ever exist?


virtually no agreements or contracts are ever equal sided whether you're talking business or otherwise. By default one party usually has more leverage than the other.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097455)

No, I mentioned communism. You suck at counting.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097456)

I was thinking that's a form of socialism

So then to you those have been the only systems? In other words, feudalism is capitalism to you?

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097458)

No, but feudalism isn't really relevant. I just named the ones that are.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097460)

I would think that the definition of a system would differentiate from past systems as well

And really in this day and age communism is basically irrelevant too if you wanna be real about it.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097461)

Just because you think it's unrealistic doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097462)

It doesn't exist currently

So what makes it more relevant than feudalism?

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097454)

yawn

You got nada

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097466)

No you're just dumb.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2097470)

What's the most you ever posted in one day?

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097472)

No, you wasted your own time, don't bull**** it.

You know damn well you come here just to create petty arguments because that's how you enjoy spending your time. I even go as far to say that you say things just to be contrarian so you can start petty arguments. This is your hobby. Just accept it.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097453)

I agree with elph too that morally if they aren't hurting anyone then let them be.. that doesn't stop it from being creepy and

Necrophiles dont hurt anyone either

And yes royal families and domesticated pets should be eliminated

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097480)

It's not my fault you're dumb and people don't take your points seriously.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097473)

I like debating but I also like good debate partners. That's where the blame game enters in.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2097481)

maybe it will encourage people to stop wasting millions of acres of useful land on cemetaries.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2097481)

Im okay with necrophiles too! The dead are dead, idc about what religion thinks, and maybe it will encourage people to stop wasting millions of acres of useful land on cemetaries.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2097485)

think of all the golf courses that haven't been built

I don't mind burying dead bodies but at least be real about it and put them in the dirt so they can decompose and return to carbon at last. I am decidedly anti-casket. But I want to be cremated so idk.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097486)

... I was just saying it's kinda twisted

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2097484)

"I aLsO lIkE gOoD dEbAtE pArTnErS"

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.n...CA7989FDD9C1D/

Dude, you lost the debate. What the **** are you talking about? They had you talking in circles around yourself. They made you look like a fool. The fact that you're pretending it never happened and they are the ones that sucked makes you look like an even bigger fool. The fact that we all know you don't actually give a flying **** about the issue and are arguing for the sake of arguing makes you like an even bigger fool. Especially because you back peddled your whole stance into "Well, I agree, but I just find it creepy."

Man, STFU and take your L with dignity.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2097487)

When people ask me I tell them to throw me naked in the woods somewhere and let nature run its course.. Since that's not possible im an organ donor and told my parents to give me to science.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097488)

... Try literally ended the debate by trying to correct me in something that has been established on page 1

After I had answered every other point they tried to raise

I only agreed it's not necessarily "the end of the world..." But that i thought it was having a negative affect. Something else I acknowledged on page 1. You guys just apparently don't know how to ****ing read.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097483)

it's your fault that you provide nothing of substance to the discussion and instead rely on lazy group think

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2097492)

I donate organs too

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2096961)

Evil? What non-moron in 2019 uses the word "evil"?

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2096963)

I used it for effect. How about depraved? You cool with incest my friend?

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2096974)

I'm not even saying there's something that can be done about it.. I just think it's having an unhealthy impact on sexuality overall

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2096969)

I think it's causing a variety of depraved fetishes to grow in prominence.. it also provides an outlet for men who don't socialize with women to explore sexuality without any feedback... It ends up giving them unrealistic ideas about sex.. plus it puts a premium on degradation of women

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2096970)

I've heard plenty of women give all kinds of opinions on porn, from it being bad to it having issues, to it being potentially empowering, and any number of nuanced views. TBH I don't think you can take down porn in an honest way that wouldn't take down all of capitalism as well. Otherwise it's just a different form of old Christian moral police with a new coat of paint.



I don't think porn is causing people to **** their mothers, it's just providing a fantasy that's I guess always been there. You might as well whine about 1st person shooters causing people to shoot up schools. And "depraved" is also cringey. Might as well call it degenerate like an honest alt right nonce.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2096973)

I think the fantasy growing in prominence is disturbing enough lol