I told him to be "careful" where he shoots up if he moved to Denmark and decided to break the law, a theoretical scenario and an obvious snarky joke. He told me to swallow razor blades, which would result in my actual death.

Free Lucem!!!

I can't even tell who banned him.

You can't be a real member of the forum if you haven't been banned at least once.

*golf clap*

Wow for free? What a steal!

Lucem got the night off, he'll be back.

I was thinking more about those stories that pop up a lot about female teachers in their 20's and 30's who sleep with high school students and then get put away in jail for up to 10 years or more, even in cases of mutual consent.

Obviously rape is a different story, but I've seen the above scenario enough times in the news to think about what a global standard should be, since it varies so much between countries.

Well we can't all be this guy.

Vice sucks the ding dong on science and health reporting. All living creatures have viruses everywhere. A liter of sea water has more viruses in it than there are people on earth. All the viruses on earth stacked neatly would stretch 100 million light years in space!

I like it too

There so happen to be a facility in Wuhan that was studying viruses Sars. So some were pushing the idea that it was either deliberately or accidentally released from there. Now some are saying that the coronavirus (covid19) was man-made, it was genetically engineered - true/not true idk.

I heard the same thing yesterday from an old crazy guy talking to a younger crazy guy in a Hardee's dining room.

It is a little strange that a top of the line research facility (supposedly the only one in China) actually studying and messing with these viruses happens to be in Wuhan and then we get a breakout of exactly that type of highly contagious virus.

But I mean they eat dogs and cats and bats over there too as a matter of course so idk.

People die in Atlanta every day. CDC got some splainin to do.

If the suspects in the spread of the virus are sloppy Chinese research, people eating bats, or American biological warfare, my money's on the latter with the former two just being gaslighting propaganda.

So do you think its reasonable America did 9/11 now? I believe last time we spoke you were giving me crap for believing its likely 9/11 was an inside job despite the lack of evidence.

To what extent? It's not unlikely that they knew about it and let it happen to exploit it, but I think that people actually want to kill Americans for destabilizing their region because we kind of deserve it.

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/14...isinformation/

I'm aware of kompromat and how its existence is ironically used by politicians to paint themselves as unrealistically noble and innocent.

I still don't see the risk/benefit analysis convincing self-serving bureaucrats to sign off on something like that against mother****ing China.

Honestly I think the motive is questionable since it's likely to hurt our economy the long run if it spreads, which is one of the last things the Trump admin wants. It would be a very risky strategy to undertake, in an election year especially.

But even if there's a decent motive that means nothing in the way of actual evidence. There was a clearer motive to stage 9/11 if you want to be real about it.

Not even an economically damaging number of civilian deaths in a country that's challenging the status quo of American global dominance?

I don't think the US did it though, it's just more probable than those other two theories.

Except if we actually killed a significant number of people and China found out and publicized it we become the new Nazi Germany even to our allies and possibly start WW3.

That's just another Tuesday now.

when you weigh in the risk/benefit analysis, no.

A short term moderate hit to the US economy will hurt Trump more than a short term severe hit to the Chinese economy would help him.

You could suppose they just aren't weighing those options properly, but yea.
I don't know much about it but I don't see anything particularly implausible about it spreading from bats or some other animal like most of these pandemic scares do.

Except we do that **** to podunk nations nobody cares about and (probably) not with artificial epidemics. There's a difference between not being hoodwinked by nationalism and "wake up sheeple!"

I don't think Trump was involved if it happened, he's too chatty.

The bat thing is an appeal to xenophobic prejudices.

There's a first time for everything.

The "bat thing" is being reported by all kinds of non-Russian news sources though, including Vox and the NYT.

That doesn't mean anything.

Why you gotta bring Vox into this?

I don't get the connection.

Do you have a hard time believing they might eat bats in China?

I once read a firsthand account of a starving girl and her family eating a rotting chicken fished out from a sewer in China.

Ngl I'd try it. Gotta be like a basset hound with a lotta good tender meat though.

I mean it's more like Westerners are oddly restrictive in the meats they're willing to consume but fundamentally true.

Ironic.

Duck is too greasy. I think dogs would be like pork.

they eat tons of **** that I would want to eat much less than a bat

But the bats could've infected some other animal they eat instead as well. From what I'm reading the reasons for suspecting the virus is from bats originally are purely scientific.

I sense someone who didn't grow up with pets. They're usually a sociopathic lot.

I wouldn't be morally put off by eating a dog

I wouldn't wanna eat a dog I knew though

I mean but who doesn't like dogs?

Dogs can smell sexual predators