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OccultHawk 05-29-2020 05:53 PM

Consistency is for the simple minded. I change my opinions because my mind is free to roam not enslaved by a single ideology.

The Batlord 05-29-2020 05:55 PM

You change your opinions cause your mind is soup and you are incapable of proper analysis. Don't bull**** like it's an elevated form of thinking, it's just laziness.

Frownland 05-29-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2120478)
Consistency is for the simple minded. I change my opinions because my mind is free to roam not enslaved by a single ideology.

Too much post-truth for you.

OccultHawk 05-29-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2120479)
You change your opinions cause your mind is soup and you are incapable of proper analysis. Don't bull**** like it's an elevated form of thinking, it's just laziness.

Laziness is just sticking to one thing even the mind is complex and goes where it goes on its own accord.

OccultHawk 05-29-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2120481)
Too much post-truth for you.

That is much more insightful.

I mean when can’t even trust the CDC. I even called them.

The Batlord 05-29-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2120482)
Laziness is just sticking to one thing even the mind is complex and goes where it goes on its own accord.

Compartmentalization is for Aushwitz guards. ****in' Nazi.

Anteater 05-29-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2120469)
Fine. Except I also feel like China offers some hope to humanity. And they gave us Mao.

Lol I don't get looking to China at all. Why not look to Denmark?

Norg 05-29-2020 06:12 PM

must be fox news fanboys :P

The Batlord 05-29-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2120487)
Lol I don't get looking to China at all. Why not look to Denmark?

My inner Marxist anarchist doesn't look at Denmark as an end goal but I'd still vastly rather live in Denmark than either America or China. Too bad I don't speak Danish.

Anteater 05-29-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2120491)
My inner Marxist anarchist doesn't look at Denmark as an end goal but I'd still vastly rather live in Denmark than either America or China. Too bad I don't speak Danish.

Rosetta Stoneeeeee

The Batlord 05-29-2020 06:44 PM

Is there a PDF?

WWWP 05-29-2020 07:31 PM

Opinion: Maybe That Police Station Shouldn't Have Broken the Law

Raime 05-29-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2120487)
Lol I don't get looking to China at all. Why not look to Denmark?



New techno mecca.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2120513)
I see China as having more aggressive late stage capitalism

So you’re brainwashed by American propaganda. Congratulations.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2120520)
my Chinese roomate finally left and really grew to hate us apparently

she says Americans smell like cheese

She should hate Americans

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2120537)
you're weirdly brainwashed by anti-communist rhetoric into thinking present day China is a remotely left wing country

how about that

Everybody needs something to love.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 05:35 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-live-updates/

Protests continue - pig mobiles burnt in Atlanta and NY

National Guard called out - in Romania the National Guard flipped sides.

It could happen here, too. lol @ the right wing protests - this is how you do it bitches

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 07:17 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/BZ5jRMdB/8-FF56...-D3-C315-B.png

My hometown representing!

Lucem Ferre 05-30-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2120548)
lol @ the right wing protests - this is how you do it bitches

They wanted something like this to happen so bad to make martyrs of themselves but little do they know the police will only oppress the minorities.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 10:00 AM

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The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???...have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That’s when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. “We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and....
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Trump is tweeting all kinds of **** about how the secret service will **** up any protestors that come for him.

That’s what Ceaușescu thought too.

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On Christmas Day, 25 December 1989, the Ceaușescus were tried before a court convened in a small room on orders of the National Salvation Front, Romania's provisional government. They faced charges including illegal gathering of wealth and genocide. Ceaușescu repeatedly denied the court's authority to try him, and asserted he was still legally the President of Romania. At the end of the quick show trial, the Ceaușescus were found guilty and sentenced to death. A soldier standing guard in the proceedings was ordered to take the Ceaușescus out the back one by one and shoot them, but the Ceaușescus demanded to die together. The soldiers agreed to this and began to tie their hands behind their backs, which the Ceaușescus protested against, but were powerless to prevent.

The Ceaușescus were executed by a gathering of soldiers: Captain Ionel Boeru, Sergeant-Major Georghin Octavian and Dorin-Marian Cîrlan,[43] while reportedly hundreds of others also volunteered. Before his sentence was carried out, Nicolae Ceaușescu sang "The Internationale" whilst being led up against the wall. The firing squad began shooting as soon as the two were in position against a wall.

Later that day, the execution was also shown on Romanian television.[citation needed][44] The hasty show trial and the images of the dead Ceaușescus were videotaped and the footage released in numerous Western countries two days after the execution.

Exo 05-30-2020 10:05 AM



Just to state my position...

I agree with Mike. I also think people have been pushed to this and it isn't their fault. Conflicted to say the least.

Anteater 05-30-2020 10:19 AM

^ That was a call for clarity and a call to action that doesn't involve burning down the whole city. A little lucidity can go a long way when you are looking for solutions.

Exo 05-30-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2120574)
^ That was a call for clarity and a call to action that doesn't involve burning down the whole city. A little lucidity can go a long way when you are looking for solutions.

Totally. I don't think burning down a city is the answer. I just realize that after decades of "progress" and still having black men and women die at the hands of the police...maybe it's not up to us to decide what the answer is anymore. I feel rage and anger and I'm a white man. I can only imagine what black men and women feel like at this time.

Frownland 05-30-2020 10:35 AM

The thing is: the riots worked. There's no way in hell that there would be any accountability for Floyd's death without them.

KM's take reminds me of this speech.


I'll leave speaking for the black community to the other white guys of the forum this time around.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2120572)


Just to state my position...

I agree with Mike. I also think people have been pushed to this and it isn't their fault. Conflicted to say the least.

Would he still consider it “burning down your own home” if he couldn’t afford his rent?

I respect the pain in his voice. And I really do believe Atlanta is one of the best cities in the country for black people so that point is taken.

But going back to Wayne Williams and all the **** I saw growing up.

This is just a theory but look into it. The missing and murdered children from Atlanta at the time of my youth was the action of a racist white cop. Maybe they did the right thing covering that up. Maybe I wouldn’t be alive if they let the truth out.

Atlanta is a comparative success story in many ways but there’s also a lot very nasty politics and white supremacy. **** covered up like crazy. And much of it is still a totally ****ing unlivable no hope no chance failure. And that’s our best?

They’ve moved the Braves and the Falcons out of downtown destroying all the income that brought in. The greatest black city in America can’t field a decent NBA team. It may seem off topic to talk about sports but it’s connected.

The Hawks administration sent a memo actively trying to make blacks feel less welcome at Hawks games because they were supposedly scaring the wealthier white people. I never saw racial conflicts at Hawks games and I went to a bunch of them during the Dominique era.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2120574)
^ That was a call for clarity and a call to action that doesn't involve burning down the whole city. A little lucidity can go a long way when you are looking for solutions.

400 years is a long ****ing search.

Exo 05-30-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2120580)
This is just a theory but look into it. The missing and murdered children from Atlanta at the time of my youth was the action of a racist white cop. Maybe they did the right thing covering that up. Maybe I wouldn’t be alive if they let the truth out.

Did you see Mindhunter on Netflix? I can't remember if this was the case they based most of season two on.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 10:49 AM

No I haven’t seen it.

Exo 05-30-2020 11:10 AM

Fiiiine. I'll google it.

Lucem Ferre 05-30-2020 11:17 AM

The people being arrested for rioting are currently being investigated based on suspicions that they are white supremacists exploiting these protests.

Trump and company are currently trying to say they are Antifa with zero evidence in response.

Either way, there is video of masked white people destroying local businesses while protesters beg them to stop.

Lucem Ferre 05-30-2020 11:46 AM

That's what's so ****ed up about Trump.

The people arresting them think they could be white supremacists and Trump's response is "Don't blame others, it's obviously Antifa.".

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 12:00 PM

@ Exo

There’s one Mindhunter episode dedicated to the Atlanta Missing and Murdered Children

One of my oldest friends said there’s a show on HBO about it

@ Lucem - at demonstrations like that there’s going to be people who believe in all kinds and one of trump’s go to is to attack people as being the opposite of what they are

It’s all post-truth.

For sure some white people wanted to see the buildings burn and some blacks didn’t and vice versa

America spreads the holy **** out of the virus blame China

America elects a lunatic blame Russia

Meanwhile Yemen and Syria are getting sick too and war marches on

The CDC takes orders from Trump
The WHO is a Chinese propaganda death machine

Psy-Fi 05-30-2020 12:06 PM



Dead Kennedys - Riot

Exo 05-30-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2120586)
The people being arrested for rioting are currently being investigated based on suspicions that they are white supremacists exploiting these protests.

Trump and company are currently trying to say they are Antifa with zero evidence in response.

Either way, there is video of masked white people destroying local businesses while protesters beg them to stop.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ike_antifa_to/

Cops too.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2120594)
who cares who it is

this needs to happen, it needs to get worse actually

Church

Lucem Ferre 05-30-2020 12:25 PM

Yes, use the suffering of black people to push your agenda.

WWWP 05-30-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2120597)
Yes, use the suffering of black people to push your agenda.

Srsly. Smdh.

WWWP 05-30-2020 12:31 PM

Right. That's their agenda.

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 12:32 PM

I missed the part when black people weren’t suffering. When was that?

OccultHawk 05-30-2020 12:33 PM

As if wealth is going to be redistributed peacefully.

WWWP 05-30-2020 01:10 PM

A riot is the language of the unheard.


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